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Pitchfork interviewed Louis C.K. and it is a good interview. Season 2 of Louie premieres this Thursday.
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Eh, I give it a 5.7
Just kidding, love you Louis!
The Pains of Being Pure at Heart remix is way better.
I feel so conflicted. On the one hand, Louis C.K. But then there’s Pitchfork, which I can’t read without feeling like I’m a bad person just because I like to sometimes listen to music that the average person has actually heard of.
Too Many Tiny Cakes be blowing up on the Pitchfork.
i don’t understand people’s dislike of pitchfork. sure some of the writer’s are overly fascinated with their ability to write music reviews, but for the most part the reviews & news are on point, and they have a lot of great features (like this interview, which i read this morning, guest lists, end of the year coverage, etc.) plus their festival is the best.
I just go for the news, just in general I don’t feel the need to read music reviews the same way I read movie reviews
Probably it’s just because I don’t really care about new music like I do movies and television? I mean, I’m not going on there crying in the comments that they post too many album trailers or whatever, but I just don’t get what the attraction is.
I think it has to do with people’s paranoid fears about “hipsters?” I have friends who freak out about hipsters the same way my uncles freak out about “illegals,” only with less e-mail forwarding.
Man, hipsters can be really cruel actually. It’s hard to approach the subject with a straight face because it sounds like a ridiculous South Park episode premise, but they can be so elitist that any ‘paranoid fears’ about them are justified. I went to school with a huge lot of them and they held a lot of power, kind of like the mean girls in Mean Girls. If you wronged them (just by liking something that they didn’t), they’d spread rumours about you, exclude you from party invites, and other bull like that. Really they’re just like rednecks: narrow-minded and they assault you with pitchfork.
Ooof, Face Taco. Do you get mad at Videogum for talking about comedy/comedians the average person has never heard of — or get defensive about it? PS I admit I love their discussions of such arcane acts as Lady Gaga and Paul McCartney.
I do not. I also don’t get mad at Pitchfork. Why on earth would I be mad? It’s just a website, it’s not like they killed my sister or anything. I ain’t gotta be mad to make fun of them.
Gorilla Vs. Bear killed my sister, wait that was an actual gorilla and bear, it was a poorly supervised zoo
He’s just upset at Pitchfork’s ongoing series “You Are a Bad Person Because You Like To Sometimes Listen To Music That the Average Person Has Actually Heard Of” which is totally an idea that is even sometimes expressed there.
Seriously, facetaco, what?
WHO R DAY? SUM SORTA VIDYA GAME?
I’m glad bashing Facetaco for his opinions has taken the place of bashing Louis CK for his…
Oh Wait, I am not glad at all.
I guess what I’m saying is, the navel gazers would need to get mad about something, I just figured it would be more of the hue and cry of, say, the “We Shouldn’t support Louis CK promises anymore because of Louis’ stance on Tracy Morgan” crowd than the, “You’re Not Allowed an Opinion on Pitchfork (Or Anything Else, for that matter) that we Fucking Disagree With, Facetaco.”
Why is facetaco getting gruff for this? It doesn’t seem to be an uncommon opinion but more importantly (for this sites purposes) its just an easy joke to make. We like jokes!
katydid,
Yes, it definitely is common to have beef with Pitchfork. I’m not sure there’s any one “easy joke” to make about that, cause there’s not just one reason to have beef. Some reasons are reasonable, some are bad. A fair, good reason to have beef is that they have a lot of power which can hurt artists, and they have many times posted some unfairly thought through bad reviews and done just that. That’ll rightly piss a fan off.
I think chris, rootmarm, Jeb, and That One made the assessment that the intent of facetaco’s Pitchfork complaint, and therefore his “joke,” was not a self-deprecating confession about his lack of knowledge about music and his insecurity with that, but instead a proud anti-intellectual claim as well as an incompletely committed to vague accusation that Pitchfork and its fans are snobs.
when facetaco realized he was being challenged, he walked it back to it just being a fact about him and his lack of interest in music.
So there was really no opinion about anything for anyone to discuss, nor was there actually a joke left in anything he wrote.
Since you say “we” should have liked it, what did “we” “like” about any of that exactly?
Anti-Pitchfork does not equal anti-intellectual. I was making a joke about how Pitchfork primarily focuses on more obscure music that the average person has probably never heard of. No need to read any more into it than that.
you can’t have read the first paragraph I wrote and say that I was saying that “Anti-Pitchfork equals anti-intellectual.”
the premise of your joke wasn’t “Pitchfork primarily focuses on more obscure music that the average person has probably never heard of.” There’s no joke there yet.
it was “Pitchfork primarily focuses on more obscure music that the average person has probably never heard of, and therefore I don’t want to go to the website cause it makes me feel bad about myself.” That doesn’t even have to be true, and I’m not saying you really think that. But that premise IS what your joke was.
that’s either a 100% self-deprecating joke along the lines of something like “I’m getting old and I don’t know what the kids like nowadays…”
or some percent of it is a dig at Pitchfork and the readers for the “elitist” action of knowing about more music than the average person. and, if so, the joke is some amount akin to jokes along the lines of George W. Bush’s proud jokey proclamation that C students can be president.
It’s not reading too far into the joke to try to get the joke, by considering whether some percent of the joke was a dig at “elitism.”
some people here obviously did see your joke as some percent a dig at something larger than Pitchfork just “focusing on obscure music” in a vacuum. the “squares vs. hipsters” paradigm and what it all means is well-worn territory, and yeah, the angle you come at it from means something, even in a joke. I thought you looked bitter. Some other people seem to have also. people either defended Pitchfork’s writing’s integrity, teased you for admitting being out of the loop, asked you whether you were actually bitter about anything, teased you for seeming bitter, defended you for seeming bitter, or took the opportunity to generally hate on “hipsters.”
No, really. I was making a joke about how Pitchfork primarily focuses on more obscure music that the average person has probably never heard of. No need to read any more into it than that.
facetaco, you can see that chris, rootmarm, Elvis vs Shark, Jeb, DS3M, and That One all did read more into it than that.
and you can see that katydid either didn’t get why all those people were reading more into it than that and you got a little bit of scolding and teasing. or katydid feigned that they didn’t get why all those people were reading more into it than that and you got a little bit of scolding and teasing, and katydid asked what was going on.
I gave a detailed, respectful, and hopefully interesting explanation of what was going on. plenty to talk about in there.
you’re reply is passive aggressive and dismissive
TEAM FACETACO!
I thought the Louis C.K. Promise crashed into the Tracy Morgan Promise and they both exploded. Did that not happen? Did one survive?
(Regarding Jackass) “There’s a real beauty in it, and there’s a release to watching those movies. But it’s because they’re doing things to each other as friends. If they were going around and hitting old ladies in the head, it would be horrible.”
Sounds like someone else recently watched the Russian pranks compilation video…