Who Cares About The Seinfeld Reunion?
The cast of Seinfeld is on the cover of this week's Entertainment Weekly because they are going to be reunited on-screen for the first time since the show ended in 1998 in a story arc about them being reunited for the first time (ooh, meta, college will be so proud) on Curb Your Enthusiasm. OK. My only question is: who cares?
Nothing feels more stuck in the '90s than Seinfeld. The humor holds up OK, kind of, but the world has moved on (FINALLY!) from being concerned with airplane food and close-talkers. People in New York don't think that it's OK to wear comfortable cross-trainers when you're going to a restaurant. We have the Internet now, and Barack Obama. 30 seconds of Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job is weirder than anything Kramer did in the show's nine year run. Do they even make Grape Nuts anymore?
I'm not trying to be a Soup Nazi about this, but I just don't care! My life has meaning and value, I do my best to live in the present, and stunts like this are tolerated but never celebrated. Nostalgia is cold comfort. I'm sure someone cares about this, though. That's OK! It's OK to care about it. Although why do you care about it? Have you been missing them all these years? Because it is over, and there is a lot of great TV on now that you can enjoy. There are plenty of other people who deserve a moment in the spotlight. The world is changed, you can feel it in the water.
You know who is really looking forward to the Seinfeld reunion? Michael Richards. Anything to erase that nightmarish racist melt-down from America's mind.
Curb Your Enthusiasm is a great show. I mean, you either like Larry David or you don't, and that is how you determine whether you like the show or not, but I like Larry David. If the reunion is good, it will be because Curb Your Enthusiasm is good, not because the guy behind Bee Movie is good. Because he is not good. Not anymore. He is insanely rich. And he has a recognizable face. But those are different qualities than being good. Or funny.
But maybe it is just me.
Posted by Gabe at 12:45 PM in What America Wants
Tags: Curb Your Enthusiasm | Jason Alexander | Jerry Seinfeld | Julia Louis-Dreyfus | Larry David | Michael Richards | Seinfeld
jerry needs a new car, so he can have something to talk about with jay leno. so he cares, obviously.
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Kramer doesn't care about black people.
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I for one do care. I still love Seinfeld. The episodes hold up surprisingly well and I know plenty of people my age who watch it on dvd but were too young to really be into it when it was being produced (syndication neuters any good show so we won’t discuss the fact that it is still on tv all the time).
Jerry Seinfeld was an integral part of Seinfeld’s success (obvs), but let’s get real. This was Larry David’s show. The fact that they are all getting back together on David’s turf is awesome and guarantees this will be worth it.
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Can we make a wolfpack? Because I couldn't agree more.
The best episodes are when Larry's actually in there: "George, the word around the office is that you're a Communist."
I can't drink the Haterade on this one, Gabe. Sorry.
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When I saw this post, I just knew there was gonna be one commenter disagreeing with Gabe and they would have a lot of positive comment votes. Sorry Gabe, but Seinfeld is great!
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I love and respect Gabe, but he is out of line here. The comments today restore my faith in the videogum community. I just wish you guys would have shown similar bravado when Lindsay was trying to claim that "How I Met Your Mother" was a decent show.
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Agreed, agreed, and agreed.
Also, "Nostalgia is a cold comfort"?! Huhz?! I hate to use the most obvious example, but Where The Wild Things Are is a veritable heart-mcrowave! Nostalgia is no 'cold' comfort, SIR.
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it's not just you. I'm far more interested in the hotter-as-she-ages Elaine than any of the other schmos.
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It's not that she's getting hotter necessarily...just that she's stopped dressing like an Orthodox Jew.
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It doesn't make sense. The show ended only ten years ago, and they've all remained fairly visible, if their careers have been less lucrative. We should also go ahead and have a reunion for the cast of The Green Mile.
What's Tom Hanks up to? Being in movies.
What's Michael Clarke Duncan up to? Being in movies.
What's Michael Jeter up to? Oh. :(
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are you serious? you comparing a movie to the best sitcom ever. thats a fact.
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Gabe, i suggest switching to a style of underwear with no fly.
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Gabe has long-ass balls.
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The only thing separating us and Gabe is a thin layer of gabardine.
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Saw Jason Alexander a few years ago on an episode of 'Criminal Minds'. He was so horrible it's the only time I ever watched that show.
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is it just me or is every post on this site negative? UGH
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Yeah dude, flame is the diet of choice for most videogummers.
Fucking Trolls
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if I were you, I would have ended this post with "downvote away!"
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Every time Jerry Seinfeld does a talk show or a guest spot these days (like on 30 Rock) I find him devastatingly unfunny. He's become Jerry Lewis...just someone who's totally incapable of transcending his own celebrity.
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This blog should be called "Gabe hates lots of stuff"
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Or rather, Gabe equally hates and loves things as you forgot about the part where Curb Your Enthusiasm was the best show ever.
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Seinfeld bores the hell out of me. Then again, I watch Gossip Girl so what do I know?
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Seinfeld looks like he's trying his very hardest to jerk off Larry David's left arm. And Jason Alexander looks like he's in on the joke, all like "Look at this guy, this guy right here, trying to make this other guy's arm ejaculate! Look at this guy! Who does this? Who. does. this? Comedy, right?"
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yeah let's keep bringing up micahel richard's rant, but don't touch ted kennedy commiting vehicular manslaughter while drunk and then fleeing the scene to sober up and then denying that he was drunk because there was no proof when there was no proof because he went and hid like a scared little rich spoiled shit while some chick with a family and people who loved her died. no let's never talk about that.
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he just left it open for you, bueno. We knew you had it well covered.
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Right on. And while we're talking about Seinfeld, why don't you ever post anything negative about the John Quincy Adams administration. Fucking travesty, that was.
Or is it just too REAL for you, Gabe?
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you probably think youre pretty fucking clever, except that gabe didnt post anything honoring john quincy adams yesterday... so try making your snark relevant. moron.
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What's your problem? I said "right on."
But on second thought, MAYBE, just maybe... this is not the appropriate time/place/tone to meaningfully discuss the life and death of a public figure whose legacy apparently looms quite large over you. Sleep on it?
Unless I'm mistaken and Ted Kennedy was your boyfriend, which really seems like a topic more suited to this forum.
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Senor BURN, over here.
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shut up, punk ass white boy. i'll eat your asshole alive! I'll fuck you until you love me, faggot
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Probably more terrifying if you threatened to eat his asshole dead...
Just trying to be constructive with my criticism.
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Best Tyson quote ever. You're way more fun than buenosueno.
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oh, you're still here
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buenosueno: putting the dick in chappaquiddick.
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ZING! (I'm playing sycophantic wingman, today!)
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you're just jealous of the girl he killed because you don't have a family and no one loves you.
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Boo!
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Unfortunately, sometimes to beat a troll you have to THIIIIINK like a troll. Troll School 101.
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Gabe's got a huge vagina today.
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In all fairness, while this isn't particularly exciting to me, I'd absolutely tune in if the same show had an Arrested Development reunion.
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Seinfeld is a real class act. Nothing like that Frasier.
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i still think 'seinfeld' is hilarious. jerry seinfeld on the other hand is fairly painful to watch. he can never keep a straight face - i really hate when comedic actors can't stay in character.
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Jimmy thinks this reunion's gonna be great!
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Can we have a moratorium on Videogum posts stating that something is not interesting? If you don't think it's interesting, don't write about it. Unless, of course, you think that your finding something not interesting is just fascinating to the rest of us.
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I'm with Gabe on this actually--Seinfeld was the bay leaf panna cotta of 90s sitcoms for me (sounds bad, is bad).
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I'm surprised by this post. I'm not frothing at the mouth over a reunion or anything (and I'm by no means a Seinfeld SUPERFAN), but I think it IS something to be celebrated that Seinfeld ran for so long AND without ever really dipping in quality (some argue it's overrated; I get it, but if you like the show, it's pretty clear that it stayed high quality throughout). Those are two things that seem almost impossible nowadays (that a show can last a long time and be good for that whole time; most new shows are canceled after a handful of episodes or less). Granted, it may just be a different/tougher tv landscape now, but it was still a great show. It's an incredible ensemble (particularly Julia Louis-Dreyfuss). Also, I sort of get your point about the type of jokes/humor, but I don't really agree. I feel like Larry David, and Seinfeld, were very influential. Maybe anti-dentite and sponge jokes aren't funny now and are maybe irrelevant, but they weren't then, right? End Seinfeldgum dissertation.
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How exactly did you find meaning and value in your life Gabe? I would love to have that.
Is the trick that I need to stop liking Seinfeld?
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Seinfeld re-runs are good if its on 30 mins before a show you actually want to watch, but you're always changing the channel right when Seinfeld is in the middle of doing a joke, because you're sure something better has to be on.. then you go back, and its watchable I guess.
But no, don't care in the least about the Seinfeld reuinion...
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I know this is going to generate a lot of downvotes for me, but even the most meh of Seinfeld episodes is funnier than pretty much any episode of Tim and Eric.
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Apples and oranges. It's like saying Bill Hicks is funnier than Sarah Silverman.
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By that, do you mean "correct"?
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I won't mention the "L" word, but this site could use a dose of positivity to balance out all the man-period snark. Just saying.
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Judging from that photo, Larry David doesn't look all that excited either by the Seinfeld reunion.
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Jeff, you really never should have let me do that Seinfeld TV Guide cover. I really looked like an asshole.
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C'mon Gabe, this is like Funny People only in real life. And you loved that movie, didn't you? Didn't you?
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i don't think it's necessarily that george and jerry and cosmo and elaine are reuniting in this pseudo-episode of seinfeld that is so terribly exciting about this.
what i think makes this interesting is the reunion of the actors (and comedian) - of jason alexander and julia louis-dreyfuss and michael richards (and jerry seinfeld) - with larry david, and what it means for the direction that curb is going to take this season. i'm not that resolute a fan of the producers, but the season of curb that revolved around larry david as the star of its reincarnation on broadway, that featured david schwimmer and ben stiller and mel brooks et cetera as themselves, was quite refreshing.
i think larry david is at his best when he's got a broad concept to work with. like his last season of seinfeld, where jerry and george make the pact to do something meaningful with their lives in the first episode, all leading up to susan dying from licking too many toxic envelopes.
and seinfeld ended horrendously, in case you forgot. that show would have ended better had it just been canceled. it deserves a proper sendoff, and larry david deserves to be an integral part of it.
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Your profile pic just won my heart.
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pipe. i dig belle & sebastian alright, too.
an alliance?
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i agree with all of this except the last paragraph. larry david wrote the last episode of seinfeld. that's pretty much as integral as you can get, i think.
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And the ending was perfect (imo).
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Gabe, you're a blogger. You post links. Your life has no meaning and is far from being valuable.
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Projecting much?
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that's a very, very mean thing to say to someone.
shake your dad's hand with the fingers that type that mean-spirited yuckiness?
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Seinfield is mostly "meh" to me. I have seen it and I don't care to see it again. I don't hate it, and I get why everyone gets all exited about it.
The fact is that a lot of people find comfort in things they enjoyed in the past. Those people have DVD collections where they actually watch the DVDs on a regular basis. They still watch Independence Day. They love it. Everything stays great. I liked that as a kid. I still love it. Goonies! My childhood!
Other people watch TV/movies and enjoy them but don't give the expierence any particular emotional value. Sure Thundercats was good when I was 7 but that is a terrible fucking cartoon. What do you mean my childhood? My childhood was defined by playing outside with my firends. It was awesome. My memories of people and events that happend to me bring me comfort. TV/movies are just entertainment.
One type still cares about Seinfield the other dose not.
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dose.
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Seinfeld is arguably the best show ever (you might win the argument if you bring up the first 10 seasons of The Simpsons). TV reunions are stupid and nostalgic yes - but can't we all sometimes like something stupid? As a big Seinfeld fan, I have to say that yes, I don't care that much about this reunion (although that's not really what it is in the traditional tv reunion thing) but if they're going to do it than my response is going to lean more toward the positive than the negative.
I've been going on this site for a few months now and am getting the feeling that Gabe doesn't actually like movies or television.
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When did this thing become Gabedoesn'tcaregum?
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When Lindsay left. :(
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If you seriously think a show about a small collection of dated, morally bankrupt neurotic stereotypes is the best sitcom, then yes you might be right. Being the "best sitcom" is a lot like being the "best at shitting your pants".
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you yaddaed over the best part.
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These types of pretentious bashes are funny because this is television we are talking about. Actually television sitcoms, which is pretty much as low-brow as you can get. If Seinfeld is only what us simpletons think is the best TV sitcom of all-time, then what do you think actually is? Again, this is television, not movies, so it's not like you can name-check some 1950s black-and-white French foreign language sitcom.
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Oops, that was meant as a reply to another post, not on its own. I didn't mean you Gabe, don't hate me!
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I actually wasn't implying there was a better sitcom out there to enjoy. Sitcoms are all garbage (which was my point), as is the way of television. I did not mean to come off like I was too high brow for television, only that all the clamoring that has gone on about this particular sitcom is ridiculous as it is just as shitty as any other sitcom. According to Jim or Seinfeld... either way you are watching bad jokes on bad television. This is why I spend my Sunday nights transfixed to the picture radio for some quality HBO programming, because it is not TV, it is HBO (irony).
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Gabe, I think Seinfeld et al. would agree with most everything you just wrote -- that's why they're doing a faux reunion instead of a real one. Seriously, though, I want to see a scene between Wanda Sykes and Michael Richards. That would be great (it's not) television (it's HBO).
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oh my god. How did I not imagine the scene between Michael Richards and Leon in my dreams before you wrote that?
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Leon? Much as I'd enjoy him climbing inside Kramer's asshole, I'd much rather see Cosmo vs Krazee-Eyez Killa.
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Leon would flip him.
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I see what you did there.
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i liked it better when posts like these were followed with lindsay posting a video of a puppy hugging a baby.
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I care. I think the meta aspect -- and how it is played -- will be noteworhy to anyone who loves teevee. Smooth your head out, Gabe. Don't be so negative. The weather's nice in NYC.
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the comedy holds up OK..kind of? Really? I don't need a Seinfield reunion and don't think it's necessary, but if it adds to the superb season that curb had its last go around then so be it. Seinfeld is the pinnacle of sitcom comedy. It's the staple for the best show on basic cable these days. Tina Fey herself has said that when she doesn't know where to go with a scene she pretends to be Julia Louis-Dreyfus. No Soup for you.
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Jesus, Gabe. Put your toys away and go take a nap because you are too cranky today.
Judging by this statement "Because it is over, and there is a lot of great TV on now that you can enjoy. There are plenty of other people who deserve a moment in the spotlight. The world is changed, you can feel it in the water." I'm guessing that Gabe doesn't have photo albums, DVDs, CDs, or clothing more than a year old.
No point in remembering what made us happy all those years...
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Yeah! It's so weird visiting a snarky website and getting snarky writing! I really had no idea what to expect...
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I belong to the camp of people too young to have seen Seinfeld during its original run, growing up with re-runs and eventually finding it on DVD. I bought each season as they were released and enjoyed every second of it. For me its still a fresh, reliable show, if clearly not the most groundbreaking thing out there. Is Tim and Eric weirder than Kramer? Yes. Is Arrested Development or 30 Rock (or Curb for that matter) smarter? Duh. But what do you watch after a hard day's work when you just want to have something on while you eat your nachos? Seinfeld. It will remain relevent and funny as long as its on TV.
Plus, the fact that it's being done through 'Curb' is probably an indicator that the cast will address all the critisms of a reunion, so I wouldn't be too worried.
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I would further argue (NERD ALERT) that Arrested Development and 30 Rock were very influenced by Seinfeld. Also, I feel like Seinfeld was definitely a smart comedy. I don't think Seinfeld is the be-all-end-all, or the ONLY influence on these shows, but Seinfeld was unique in that it was "about nothing" and was very open about the characters being sort of jerks, which is definitely a theme of 30Rock and AD. I feel like those shows wouldn't exist as we know them if not for Seinfeld (and other shows too, but Seinfeld is one of them).
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i wouldn't really call that nerdy. it's more just common sense. you've neglected to mention plenty of shows, but i see one glaring omission.
seinfeld was a show set in nineties new york that revolved around four thirty-something assholes that hung out in a coffee shop.
it's always sunny in philadelphia is a show set in (i don't know) aughts philadelphia that revolves around four twenty-something assholes that hang out at a bar.
it's a format that works and, in either case, best when you forget that danny devito exists.
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"you've neglected to mention plenty of shows, but i see one glaring omission.seinfeld was a show set in nineties new york that revolved around four thirty-something assholes that hung out in a coffee shop."
Something hilarious is that I totally thought you were going to say Sex in the City. Doesn't make sense at all (though I guess the "assholes" part is right?).
Seriously, though, good call on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. In many ways, it's the closest thing our generation has to Seinfeld (I'm assuming you're of my generation: the one with Pokemons and Digimons and Tomigachis and whatnot).
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I agree with K. To say Seinfeld is not groundbreaking shows an ignorance of how tv comedies have evolved. It’s like saying Monty Python wasn’t groundbreaking. Whether you like the show or not (and for the record, I do not like MP), you have to respect it in the context of it’s time.
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Hey, I agree with both of you. I was referring more to the fact that, looked at now in the context of modern comedies, it isn't seen as that cutting-edge (which I think is what Gabe was getting at originally). But ultimately, yeah, without Seinfeld we wouldn't have any of those shows. There's something to be said too, about a show that we can all agree as being groundbreaking and intelligent, while still having a massive mainstream audience. That's not something you see much of anymore.
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You forget about Two and a Half Men.
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Totally.
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I don't think anyone is required to respect a television show on any merit. That's just silly. It is just television.
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Great point; media evolves. Innovative things aren't allowed to pop out of nowhere on TV. Unfortunately, your points are wasted here.
If you want insightful, relevant commentary on either art or the entertainment industry, you're at the wrong website.
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I suck
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This could have been really funny if you coulda gotten a fake Al Roker Av done up. But, ya didn't.
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Yikes! Everyone is acting like a technojeremy, whatever that means, so just relax, nerds!!! This feels exactly like the time I was looking at internet porn, but I accidentally clicked on a fetish link for hate fucking. Yeah, this feels exactly like that, but with fewer boners.
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Mental note : "hate fucking"..look into when not at work....
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Fewer boners, but not "no boners."
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Hey, take it easy with the questions, Chris Hansen. I know what I said.
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"i hate these old men"
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Seinfeld is funny. Well, not him so much, but those other three, and hence, the show. You don't have to think about it so much. You turn it on, you laugh, you turn it off. It's a sitcom. Don't think about it so much, that's not what it's there for. None of the four of them has done anything funny sense, so great - let's put 'em back together and see if it's funny again. If it is, great, if not, oh well. I'm in.
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http://videogum.com/archives/the-hunt-for-the-worst-movie-of-all-time/the-hunt-for-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-le-divorce_082601.html#comment-4462792
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I'm not saying you have to turn your brain off to enjoy Seinfeld. One of the reasons I enjoy it is that with the exception of Jerry, the acting on the part of the rest of the cast is really funny. Lot's of little things that crack me up even after many viewings. I'm just saying that SENSE (ha ha, "sense") most people thought it was funny, and a lot of people think Curb is funny, this has a good chance of being funny too.
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I care
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Oh, and just to add one thing. Are there a lot of great TV shows out there right now? Because you don't talk about ANY of them,.
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Ouch, Gabe, Seinfail.
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Why does everyone want Gabe to talk about good shows? Thats not funny. Remember that last time at work when someone was talking about how great Bones is.....did you laugh at all? Or did you just wait until it was polite to excuse yourself?
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Some people have war in the countries.
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*their
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Oh, I prefer the original one.
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It seems that people care a lot. Oh Seinfeld, my Seinfeld.
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I hate Seinfeld so much I can't even summon the energy to write a constructive slagging...
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DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT SEINFELD!
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Well, what do you mean by "care?" If all it takes to care is to catch the episode if I'm around and it's prudent, I guess I care. Does your not caring mean that you'll do whatever it takes not to watch the episode? I understand what you're saying about nostalgia and there being good TV, presently, but what does it take to put the cast of Seinfeld on CYE and then watch it? Next to nothing, and it's not like they're taking veins out of True Blood vampires mouths. There are enough excuses not to read a book to go around! If you still disagree, I ask, when is it appropriate to visit the past? Of Seinfeld, of anything? Kudos to them, I say, rather than your "who cares?" Because sometimes, Gabe, not caring is caring.
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Everyone listen to your favorite mid-tempo song while looking at this little moving George here and your day will be that much better. I'm listening to Edwyn Collins' 'A Girl Like You' and George is dancing to it so nicely. :D
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I think we need some Lindsay Robertson back in here.
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I appreciate the "no hugs" recklessness of Seinfeld over the "bromance" comedies of this decade. I think you can see the Seinfeld strain of humor in shows like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and Peep Show, which are excellent.
Last season of Curb Your Enthusiasm more than made up for season 5's staleness and I can't wait to see the cast of Seinfeld on it.
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When I was ten back in 97 I had a nightmare Jerry Seinfeld kidnapped me. As Jerry was loading my catatonic body into his car, Kramer approached Jerry and asked what he was putting in the backseat. Jerry yelled at Kramer and told him not to worry about it and drove away. The most traumatic part of the whole situation was running into my parents room, hoping to be consoled, only to be met with hysterical laughter at my retelling of the story.
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wow, you don't care about the Seinfeld reunion?? (Not that there's anything wrong with that). But well i, for one, care.
But hey people, relax. What's wrong with you guys? Some people like Seinfeld, some don't. Geez. Apparently there are many masters of their domain around here.
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Seriously, fuck you guys. You worship Gabe's post most days, then as soon as he says an opinion that is not exactly popular you all start calling Lindsay's name from the rooftops. Sure, we all miss Lindsay, but Gabe is like the Piano Man of blogging. It's 5 o'clock on a Thursday, regular crowd shuffles in, there's a AmPat sitting next to me, making love to his tonic and gin...we put money in his jar and say 'man, what the hell are you doing here?!!!'. Stop being so fucking fickle. Gabe is the best there is, perhaps his judgement wasn't right here, but so what? Sing us a song, you're the piano man!!!
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I'm so very drunk, Twilight Sad can drink. I'm very sorry!!!
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I meant Twilight fans, not Twilight Sad, I was listening to them when I wrote that, stupid drink.
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Keep going.
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I think it is acceptable to call him out when he's wrong. Posts like this remind people of why we need Lindsay, whoever that is. Just kidding, I've looked through the archives.
I like this site as it is now, but Lindsay was the yin to Gabe's yang. This type of "who cares about ..." post demonstrates that Videogum is drowning in yang.
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To quote Jeffrey Ross, Jerry Seinfeld couldn't be here tonight because he had a prior arrangement to fuck a model on a pile of cash.
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I look forward to the Family Guy clip where Brian says that he likes Seinfeld and then Stewie beats him up and demands an Emmy because comedy right guys?
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Seinfeld is actually great. No sass or snark needed with that statement.
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Seinfeld >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> True Blood >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gabe
Am I the only one?
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While certain elements of How I Met Your Mother can be grating, like most stuff with Ted, even at its worst it deftly subverts a historical genre (3 camera sitcom) beloved by millions and is filled with likable characters and Neil Patrick Harris is great in it. The cast are a TV geek's wet dream. If you don't like How I Met Your Mother, then you never really loved the Dick Van Dyke Show or Get Smart, Cheers or any other broadly aimed sitcom. HIMYM is canon, and maybe the last.
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clearly all the seinfeld cast members grandchildren put them up to this so that they could eat the free HBO catering on set.
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I care. Gabe you are a shithead. Also, I hate it when you assholes pretend to have an informed opinion on politics. I am a liberal democrat and I agree completely with buenosueno. Ted Kennedy was no saint. You pathetic assholes downvote anything remotely critical of democrats.
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This used to be such a nice neighborhood, what happened?
There has been an influx of humorless twats ever since Gabe linked to that Shitbird Taylor Max (or they linked back here). The comments on this site were some of the best, and funniest things I've ever read, and now they're peppered with reactionary bullshit.
Go away, trolls, please go away.
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I meant "Tucker Max." Apologies to Taylor Max.
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"There are plenty of other people who deserve a moment in the spotlight."
long time reader, first time poster here... but this one comment drew me out of lurk mode... this is a ridiculous statement... Seinfeld didn't have a moment, it had an era. shit, probably more than that. EVERYONE knows Seinfeld. It's like the Beatles of TV... sure, there's been stuff since then that is probably, by all accounts, better... but jeeze, it is what it is: an utter classic. Who doesn't know what Seinfeld is? you don't even have to be a fan (hell, i'm not) to know that it is/was a BIG DEAL in our pop culture...
so, to say that something could do that again? maybe/of course (eventually?)... i mean, hell... we came close with CSI... but no, there's a pretty big place in sitcom history for Seinfeld, way larger than a moment.
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In 1998 when Seinfield was the No. 1 show in ratings it was viewed by roughly 21 million households. Thats a lot of households. However there were estimated 101 million households total 1998. There are a lot of people to whom Seinfield was not an "era" or anything more than just another popular TV show I occasionally heard people at work taking about. I was part of one of those 4 out of 5 households not watching Seinfield. Just because something is a big deal to you, dose not mean the rest of the world has to follow. Not everybody has a special place in their heart for your special shows. Not everybody has heard of your favorite book. Not everyone likes the Rolling Stones or plays Rock Band/Guitar Hero. In fact, most people don't. Quite a few people seem to be interested in other things. Things not as popular but things not your thing none-the-less. So quit everyone getting all bent out of shape just because Gabe wants to be outside the "pop-culture" balloon of conformity a minute.
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Everyone.
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As long as the whole cast is dropping the F bomb and acting like terrible human beings (the Curb SOP) I will be pleased. Think about the scene where Michael Richards meets Vivica Fox. Cringe humor orama.
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I think I only know one person over here (the UK) that likes it. When Jerry Seinfeld was promoting Bee Movie, he went on Jonathan Ross who kept continually mentioning and comparing it to Friends and how it was much more successful here. Watching Jerry's growing hate for Jonathan throughout the course of the thing was great.
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I sort of agree with Gabe. I loved and still love Seinfeld, but do I care about the reunion? not really.
but 7pm, on TBS...Very Funny
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Seinfeld is way better than you're giving it credit for. If only for its "no hugs" ethic -- it really changed what a sitcom could do. I think you're taking it for granted that practically every sitcom before Seinfeld ended with some cheesy "life lesson" learned or some sort of pandering to traditional and abstract moral values. Seinfeld really transcended that formula without being mean spirited - and that's partly why it was so good.
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Mostly I agree, except I think "Seinfeld" was mean-spirited, intentionally, and that is why it was so good and so different.
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I'm still pretty concerned about close-talkers.
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everyone is till pretty concerned about seinfeld. much love!
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"Because it is over, and there is a lot of great TV on now that you can enjoy."
You wouldn't know if from this site, which recaps every shitty reality show on Bravo and serves up snark for solid shows like LOST and MAD MEN.
Fuck.
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I had fond feelings of this show until I dated a guy who was obsessed with it. Like obsessed. We broke up. No relationship for me! Get it? Like the soup nazi joke?
ps. Anyone wanna date?
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I was late on the "Seinfeld" bus. I had to watch most of the shows on VHS tape, ah the smell of VHS tape... Anyway, it was consistently brilliant and hilarious.
I also love "Curb". LD is all right in my book.
And I am afraid of this "Seinfeld" reunion. I think it will not be rad. Jerry was the Paul and John of the group, with everyone else being Ringos. I don't care about what any of them are doing or have been up to since "Seinfeld," and I wish they would've just left it that way and had fun raking in the mountains of cash they all got for the DVDs.
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"People in New York don't think that it's OK to wear comfortable cross-trainers when you're going to a restaurant."
And this "change", toward discomfort, insincerity, and shallow "appearance is everything" garbage, is considered anything but evil? Come on!
Seinfeld's real problem is that it helped New York become even more shallow and useless.
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