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July 10, 2009

The Cleveland Show: Even Worse Than Previously Thought: An Early Review

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Admittedly, it has been awhile since I've actually watched an episode of Family Guy. But I'm confident that I've seen enough. The show is so repetitive and obvious and cheap and dumb, and I've seen plenty of episodes without ever once being surprised by the show being anything other than repetitive and obvious and cheap and dumb, that I feel like I've gotten the best of what it has to offer, and that its best is awful. And so I live my life now mostly Family Guy-free. When the Earth is covered in ice, and the Future Mecha dig up Haley Joel Osment's robo-body, buried beneath Ancient Coney Island, to uncover the last recorded history of human kind, they will notice, lying there at the bottom of what was once the ocean, vast containers containing this show, which our descendants will have buried there, finally, having realized our mistake.

All of that being said, if the opening scene of the premiere episode of The Cleveland Show, the Family Guy spin-off that begins as an episode of Family Guy before spinning-off, and of which this is supposedly an early review, is any indication, that show has actually gotten worse, and I am worried that it is taking so long for our descendants to plunge this thing face first into the fucking water. We should all be having a lot more babies, you guys. So that they can learn. So that they can bury it. Now.

This is the opening scene of the premiere episode of the Cleveland Show, when it is still basically an episode of Family Guy, right before it spins-off:

HOLY SHIT. A dull Saran Wrap condom non-joke followed by a casually tossed-off racist remark, and ending with a Kathleen Turner zing?

But this is not a condemnation of Family Guy, as I believe that Family Guy is enough of a condemnation of Family Guy. This is an early review of The Cleveland Show. Which is basically Black Family Guy. And never gets any better than that opening scene. And so it IS a condemnation of The Cleveland Show, which I guess turns it into a condemnation of Family Guy. Whatever. You do the math. I will be busy puking in between typing in ALL CAPS.

This show does not premiere until September, but I happened to get a tip from a Professional Internet Colleague on where to legally download the first episode because you should never illegally download things ever, it's terrible. Super legal. This Professional Internet Colleague included a note with this information:

If you actually download and watch the leaked pilot of The Cleveland Show, you care about your job more than I.

"Would that I had taken the red pill."
--The Matrix

This is one of the laziest shows that I have ever seen in my life. It appears to have been written in about 10 seconds, on the back of a urinal cake, in urine. Cleveland and his son leave the fictional town of Quahog for California, but stop on the way in Cleveland's hometown of Stoolbend, Virginia. GET IT? Because Virginia has had a long tradition of fine furniture craftsmanship, but also POOP. And that is the "wit" of this show. Here is some of the "comedy":

Cleveland: It means you've gotta take chances in life to find true happiness.
Son: That sounds gay.
Cleveland: Gays are smart, just look at how many lines Gene Hackman has been able to memorize over the years.

THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE ANY SENSE. I mean, in addition to the boring homophobia, and the lame attempt at disguising that homophobia with a nonsensical compliment that isn't a compliment (gays are smart because of their ability to memorize sentences?), the worst part of this joke is actually the fact that GENE HACKMAN IS CONSIDERED A LEGITIMATE POP CULTURE TARGET. It's 2009, what are we even talking about here? Between this and the Kathleen Turner diss, by the time the show gets to a character based on Kevin Federline (named Federline Jones) that actually feels RELEVANT AND TOPICAL.

Wooooooooooof.

Not that the non pop-cultural references are any better. "The office said they'd reimburse me for the gas mileage out there, and with gas prices these days, right your own punchline." Ugh. Gas jokes? And also NO. YOU WRITE THE PUNCHLINE. THAT IS WHAT THAT 100 MILLION DOLLARS WAS FOR. There's also a "joke" about genital mutilation. It goes like this:

Cleveland's Love Interest: I don't know what to do.
Cleveland: Have you considered genital mutilation?
Cleveland's Love Interest: What?
Cleveland: Haha, I'm joking.

? Good joke.

I will leave the issue of race to someone more capable and better informed, although I do think it's odd that Seth MacFarlane cast a racially mixed group of voice actors to play the black characters (except for the bear--that's right, the fucking BEAR--just like the fucking DOG who came before him--because even Seth MacFarlane's bizarre choices have to be repetitive--who is voiced by Seth MacFarlane doing his best impression of a miserable frat boy doing his Triumph the Insult Comic Dog impression to impress someone who is also drunk). But whatever. It is surprising that race is probably the least of this show's many problems. And besides, they took care of it:

Problem solved.

Look, Seth MacFarlane has made an incredible fortune by churning out repetitive and obvious and cheap and dumb (and also thoughtless, and also immature) garbage. You can barely fault him*, since it's obviously what America wants. The Cleveland Show, just like Family Guy, is not surprising. It seems to aggressively and efficiently work to meet its intended audience's very low expectations. Certainly no more. Maybe a little less. The only thing about it that is even remotely surprising, still, every time, is the fact this show is probably going to do great. Because this world was not made for people like us. We can only hope that our children will do better. And that the Future Mecha will leave those sunken cases where they are, to rot. DON'T TOUCH THOSE CASES, FUTURE MECHA!

*But you will fault him.

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83 Comments

It's got electrolytes!

Posted by: jeevus at 07/10/09 11:23 AM | Reply
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Dorkus Malorkus

It's got what America craves!

Posted by: Dorkus Malorkus profile link in reply to jeevus's comment at 07/11/09 10:13 PM | Reply
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every second of that first clip was spot on genius

Posted by: Sean Bradley in reply to jeevus's comment at 07/11/09 11:39 PM | Reply
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Gabe, stop being an asshole.

Posted by: Mark in reply to jeevus's comment at 07/15/09 1:24 AM | Reply
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I'm 90% on the same page as you, Gabe, but until you find another form of humor to use in your writing other than snippy, bitchy sarcasm, let's not be too hard on Mr. McFarlane's annoying shortcomings, k?

Posted by: Barf at 07/10/09 11:34 AM | Reply
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briewer

Wait, because Gabe has a distinctive brand that uses all of the time like EVERY OTHER HUMORIST EVER he doesn't have the right to point out Seth MacFarlane's shortcomings? I hear they're offering courses in Making Sense at the local community college, you should probably sign up.

Posted by: briewer profile link in reply to Barf's comment at 07/10/09 12:53 PM | Reply
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fatmanj

yeah manj, after briewer makes da honor rolls at Bein' A Meanie university majoring in Snarkonomics wif a minor in Bein' Ho-Ho Funny By Makin' Up Fake Titles For Colleges

Posted by: fatmanj profile link in reply to briewer's comment at 07/10/09 1:24 PM | Reply
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I knew da cake eatur, Fatmanj, and let me tell you, you are no da cake eatur.

Posted by: laura in reply to fatmanj's comment at 07/10/09 1:36 PM | Reply
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Sassy Molassy

I'm going to come to your house, wait until you are asleep, and then steal your j key. That will force you to use SOME CREATIVITY AND COME UP WITH A NEW SHTICK.

Posted by: Sassy Molassy profile link in reply to fatmanj's comment at 07/10/09 5:19 PM | Reply
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I think the overall point I was trying to make is that Gabe is no comedy genius either, although he tries darn hard, bless his heart. He's entitled to write whatever wants, as we all are.

Wow, my comment is at -62 as I write this! Didn't mean to rock your boat, folks.

Posted by: Barf in reply to briewer's comment at 07/13/09 11:53 AM | Reply
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Barf, I'm 90% with you.

I love Gabe's comedic voice, but without Lindsay, it feels heavy-handed. I don't want Videogum to become a daily list of things that Gabe hates.

I say this on the gallows of the comment board.

Posted by: queermo profile link in reply to Barf's comment at 07/10/09 5:27 PM | Reply
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I'll admit, it doesn't take too much attention and brain power to understand Family Guy (with the fart jokes and all), but the pop culture jokes are a little more "educated." And I don't see why I can't be a fan of this show and also a fan of Tim and Eric and The Office and Arrested Development. So what if they don't compare, do we need to limit ourselves to "smart" comedies? Family Guy is like the elephant in the room, everyone watches it but no one wants to admit it. I'm not saying you secretly like it, but I don't think you're going to change others minds, and I you need to loosen up a bit on your hatred of the show. It's really not. that. bad.

Posted by: Faith at 07/10/09 11:34 AM | Reply
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dafs

I used to think that too, but on closer examination, the educated jokes aren't smart. They're simply obscure. You can reference Benjamin Disraeli, but all you're doing is proving that you've heard the name.

Posted by: dafs profile link in reply to Faith's comment at 07/10/09 12:13 PM | Reply
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All the pop-culture references are mean-spirited and inaccurate.
They all boil down to "this celeb is fat, this one is gay."

I mean, Gene Hackman? Really? It's like they use the obscure references so
their frat-boy audience can't follow along, and just figures "Well, I don't know Gene Hackman well, but that joke MUST make sense. God, this show is so SMART."


Posted by: yeah, exactly in reply to dafs's comment at 07/10/09 12:37 PM | Reply
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That's why I put educated in quotation makes. And how many frat boys do you know that are familiar with Benjamin Disraeli?

Posted by: Faith in reply to dafs's comment at 07/10/09 3:17 PM | Reply
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^^^(as he references Benjamin Disraeli)^^^

If you don't like something... no problem. I can respect people who simply don't like something because they don't find it funnny. I just get annoyed at the twats who don't like something because they don't want to be associated in any way with sandal/hoody wearing fratboys... everybody was (or is) a douche at some point. I mean, I still visit videogum even though I'd rather not be associated with political science/communication/philosophy/liberal-arts majors who work for Apple while pursuing careers as actors/writers/graphic-designers... but will never make it, because you actually suck and are too far up your own asses to realize you might as well wear hoodies/shorts/sandals for all you're worth. Quit being dicks.

Posted by: oompa in reply to dafs's comment at 07/10/09 3:52 PM | Reply
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dafs

I don't think the people here dislike Family Guy because frat guys like it. Bud Light is a shitty beer, but it gets me drunk. Family Guy is a shitty show, and it doesn't make me laugh, so I don't watch it.

Posted by: dafs profile link in reply to oompa's comment at 07/10/09 5:15 PM | Reply
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todd gack

not only does this diatribe deserve endless downvotes for its whiny "you guuuyyysss, stop being meeeaann" undertone, but also, for this: "you actually suck and are too far up your own asses to realize you might as well wear hoodies/shorts/sandals for all you're worth" which actually makes no sense. at all.

Posted by: todd gack profile link in reply to oompa's comment at 07/11/09 5:30 PM | Reply
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i don't watch it. i've tried. i can't.
and yes it really is that bad. it REALLY is.

Posted by: glass_family profile link in reply to Faith's comment at 07/10/09 12:34 PM | Reply
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An American Patriot

Yeah FAMILY GUY is STUPID, IMMATURE, EASY, and RANDOM AS FUCK.


But you know what? I FUCKING LAUGH MY ASS OFF. I can shut my BRAIN off for a half hour and enjoy some TRASH. IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. That shit has already come and gone. We just didn't noticed CAUSE OF MJ.


THAT SAID this show looks like SOMEONE PILEDRIVED SHIT INTO FUCK AND THEN BACK INTO MORE SHIT while getting it on with that other shitSTORM: American dad.

Posted by: An American Patriot profile link at 07/10/09 11:39 AM | Reply
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fatmanj

Yeah manj! negative 4 points for bad comment! lets vote da american patriot down cause we's disagrees wif him and stuffs. i lubs da democracys here!

Posted by: fatmanj profile link in reply to An American Patriot's comment at 07/10/09 1:28 PM | Reply
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An American Patriot

WHAT the fuck are you? Git OUTTA here ya DA CAKE Eatur wannabe!

Posted by: An American Patriot profile link in reply to fatmanj's comment at 07/10/09 2:49 PM | Reply
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ber

It even has canned laughter. How can you not love it?

Posted by: ber profile link at 07/10/09 11:43 AM | Reply
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Oh, so Mike Henry and Seth Macfarlane are doing Amos and Andy?

Posted by: Mark at 07/10/09 11:48 AM | Reply
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Family Guy IS like the elephant in the room, but only in as much as it shits all over everything and everyone wants to kill the guy who brought it over. Listen. I have horrible taste. Horrible taste. I've laughed out loud at King of Queens. Out loud. But even I think Family Guy is played out and epically boring. And the funny part is, everyone is going to be like, "O, the Cleveland Show isn't funny but Family Guy is", even though IT IS LITERALLY THE EXACT SAME SHOW. The emperor has no clothes, people! I would voluntarily watch 1,000 episodes of Everybody Loves Raymond before I watched another episode of Family Guy. It just. isn't. funny.

Posted by: SallyRidden at 07/10/09 11:49 AM | Reply
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kathleen11

i too didn't appreciate the Kathleen Turner joke. overweight people cross-dressing is Tyler Perry territory. and with my rheumatoid arthritis, baseball is not a realistic activity.

Posted by: kathleen11 profile link at 07/10/09 11:55 AM | Reply
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i used to watch family guy, and i used to think it was funny. now i can barely sit through the opening credits, even of episodes i thought were funny. it IS that bad. and i think that it's exactly because of the criticism above, repetitive, obvious, cheap, and dumb. every episode is the same and once you realize it you can never like it again. kind of how once someone mentions that shannen doherty's eyebrows are uneven you will never be able to watch 90210 again. hey--maybe they can work that into the cleveland show somewhere...

Posted by: rb at 07/10/09 11:58 AM | Reply
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I also used to enjoy Family Guy, especially the first few seasons, but you know what? The true awfulness of the past 2 seasons of Family Guy can only be understood by people that used to watch it. That's the only way you can recognize the absurd level of self-referencing they do, which on FG, is exactly defined as "using the exact same joke, in the exact same way, again." It's as if the writers bet that they could create an entire new season of episodes based entirely on jokes from past episodes. I've never seen anything like it. It's been a true awe-inspiring display of laziness. You know how they say lazy comedy is referencing other things in the hope that the simple recognition of those things will draw a laugh? Well, Family Guy drops in references to Family Guy in hope that the simple recognition of past Family Guys will draw a laugh. That's an entirely new definition of lazy comedy.

Posted by: Schiels profile link in reply to rb's comment at 07/11/09 10:37 PM | Reply
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Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood

Gene Hackman? Kathleen Turner? This show is made for people my age and I honestly don't really know who those people are. RELEVANCE
In this lies my main problem with Family Guy (and by extension The Cleveland Show): Do the majority of people who watch get the jokes anyway?

Posted by: Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood profile link at 07/10/09 12:01 PM | Reply
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adrienne

You seriously don't know who they are? I am not old and that makes me feel old. For the youngins - Gene Hackman played Royal in the Royal Tennebaums and Kathleen Turner played Chandler's dad in Friends. They're also extremely accomplished actors, but whatever, right? Family Guy doesn't care.

Also maybe I am too young to get it, but was there ever a joke about Gene Hackman being gay or is Seth MacFarlane really that lazy?

Posted by: adrienne profile link in reply to Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood's comment at 07/10/09 12:08 PM | Reply
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Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood

I knew Kathleen Turner was in Romancing the Stone (VH1 I Love the 80s, I hate myself SO MUCH) and I knew I heard Gene Hackman's name before, but whenever I saw him I would refer to him as Royal Tennenbaum. But please don't feel old, I'm just one of these young punks who don't care 'bout nothin' (and I don't have much pop culture about movies to be honest).
Thanks for the info Adrienne, I owe you a Coke.

Posted by: Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood profile link in reply to adrienne's comment at 07/10/09 12:23 PM | Reply
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It makes me :( that someone doesn't know who Gene Hackman is. Turner, I can sort of understand, but Hackman? Start with French Connection and The Conversation and go from there.
There's no way I'm this old. Christ I'm only 26.

Posted by: That One profile link in reply to Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood's comment at 07/10/09 3:52 PM | Reply
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KW

Seriously. I'm 26 and was watching Romancing the Stone before I knew what I was watching. And Gene Hackman is a legend in my mind.

Posted by: KW profile link in reply to That One's comment at 07/11/09 10:54 PM | Reply
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I haven't laughed that hard since Will Smith and Nipsey Russell both dressed up as Blacula at the BET Halloween party. Aaaaaaaaaaand cut-scene.

Posted by: Patrick M at 07/10/09 12:08 PM | Reply
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dafs

is Gene Hackman gay? Are there rumors that Gene Hackman is gay? Do coworkers stand around the watercoolers and discuss whether or not Gene Hackman might be gay, or are they interrupted by their boss who tells them that they better stop talking and get to work, or else they might have to work late and not have time to go home and take a shower before the Kool & The Gang concert?

Posted by: dafs profile link at 07/10/09 12:10 PM | Reply
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Yes, exactly. Unless something about Gene Hackman makes him particularly gay, or that's a wink, wink thing, it's not even a JOKE.

It's just manatees pushing balls across a pool.

Posted by: yup in reply to dafs's comment at 07/10/09 12:46 PM | Reply
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dw

I guess I'm not as bugged by the pop culture jokes being outdated as I am by them being complete non sequiturs. Admittedly, I haven't watched many episodes of Family Guy (for a reason), but it seems like they drop in these pop culture fantasy segments that have nothing to do with the plot just for a cheap laugh. A cheap laugh that isn't all that funny because the best they could do was take a potshot at Kathleen Turner for putting on weight. An actress that hasn't been particularly popular in recent years got older? And fat? OMG ROTFLMAO!


And American Patriot: In re: shutting your brain off: James Rocchi, Transformers 2 review, MSN: "And no, I can't shut my brain off and have fun, anymore than I could rip out my tongue and enjoy a meal, because my brain is where I feel fun."

Posted by: dw profile link at 07/10/09 12:12 PM | Reply
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why's Videogum following @SethMacFarlane...?

also, just as i was about to hit submit on that question, Firefox crashed. coincidence?

Posted by: alull profile link at 07/10/09 12:27 PM | Reply
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Roosevelt Franklin

Much like Christianity and Star Wars, I don't hate Family Guy, just its fans.

The show itself is terrible, yes. But I could live with the fact that it's terrible if FG fans weren't so goddamn annoying. I haven't seen a full episode since my college freshman year roommate would watch multiple episodes on DVD WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND THAT WAS THEIR DATE HOLY SHIT.
But while I was reeling in horror that this was his idea of "romance", a couple of jokes at least managed to get me to crack a smile. Even a stopped watch covered in shit is right twice a day.

The worst part of the pop culture jokes is that they go so obscure, that they become people's frame of reference.
Instead of "Oh yeah, Randy Newman, the Oscar award winning Songwriter and brilliant satirist"
It becomes "Oh yeah, Randy Newman, that dumb old guy on Family Guy who sings about whatever he sees and has a funny voice".

But yeah, people who love Family Guy, quote it incessantly, do Stewie impressions and drink the MacFarlane Kool-Aid basically suck.

Posted by: Roosevelt Franklin profile link at 07/10/09 12:45 PM | Reply
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Elvis vs. Shark

Why is everyone (well, 34% of you) making some sort of statement in all caps? And all in that annoying, snarky, indie 'tone' of writing?

Particularly Roosevelt Franklin's comment:

"[...]since my college freshman year roommate would watch multiple episodes on DVD WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND THAT WAS THEIR DATE HOLY SHIT."

How is that sentence even coherent? Would you talk like that in real life? It looks like a quote from that awful webcomic Questionable Content.

Everyone's trying to imitate Gabe's style of writing, but it just ends up annoying and pretentious.

Nerds.

Posted by: Elvis vs. Shark profile link in reply to Roosevelt Franklin's comment at 07/10/09 7:53 PM | Reply
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Roosevelt Franklin

in all fairness, I do talk like that in real life. I get very riled up about that particular roommate. (the guy left me post it notes on a daily basis). You're right though, quite questionable indeed. Unfair of me to burden you all with my rage.

Posted by: Roosevelt Franklin profile link in reply to Elvis vs. Shark's comment at 07/11/09 12:37 AM | Reply
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Weeam

Can you burn me a Limp Bizkit album?

Posted by: Weeam profile link in reply to Elvis vs. Shark's comment at 07/11/09 2:21 AM | Reply
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cranB

Family Guy is what I hatewatch. I should really just turn to Entourage for that, like normal people.

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fatmanj

das funny manj. i hatewatch da 30 rock, da office, and losty. dey's all worse dan da family guyj

Posted by: fatmanj profile link in reply to cranB's comment at 07/10/09 1:19 PM | Reply
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Weeam

sssssshut. up.

Posted by: Weeam profile link in reply to fatmanj's comment at 07/11/09 2:22 AM | Reply
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Calliwell

Turner was also in The Virgin Suicides, but again pointing out the references doesn't help with the funny.

Saying you don't like Family Guy is like telling a woman at an office party "no I'm not interested in seeing pictures of your cats/babies wearing silly hats." It really hurts people, and then they shoot off msg's about you on MSN.

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super!

FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT

Posted by: super! profile link at 07/10/09 1:11 PM | Reply
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Sharkleberry

The two biggest problems I have with Adult Swim are that they put on a FULL HOUR of King of the Hill, followed by a FULL HOUR of Family Guy season 1 reruns. Watching Family Guy season 1 is like watching the Raleigh, NC sewer monster: every second spent watching the disgusting, pulsating, putrid pile of shit makes you want to abscond to a place where the cartoons are properly drawn and animated, where the jokes have nothing to do with pop culture references from obscure 80's sitcoms, and the plot devices are contained behind the gilded vail of actual comedy.

These two shows are, by far, the two most awfully dull animated comedies out there (The Goode Family didn't get picked up). Have you ever watched an episode of King of the Hill? FUCKING AWFUL. Dreadful characters. Dreadful jokes. Dreadful plots. Dreadful topical humor. It's like you want to punch Mike Judge in the balls and tell him you got it already; he is making fun of right wingers. Oh how hilarious. And this bullshit went on for 13 seasons. Jesus Christ.

The only thing good about The Cleveland Show is that it is the reason King of the Hill got canceled.

"Garbage in. Garbage out." ~ George Carlin

Posted by: Sharkleberry profile link at 07/10/09 1:17 PM | Reply
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trevormail

Not sure why I've gone to bat more than once for King of the Hill on this website (it's a "good" show on its best days), but the characters are pretty sympathetic despite their intensely unattractive attributes. That's pretty hard to pull off and definitely not what you'd do if you were simply going after wingers.

Posted by: trevormail profile link in reply to Sharkleberry's comment at 07/10/09 2:24 PM | Reply
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Yes, I've seen King of the Hill -- it's great. It's you who's awful.

Posted by: JD in reply to Sharkleberry's comment at 07/10/09 2:59 PM | Reply
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kiss the pan

Well, Sharkleberry, I personally don't find you awful, but I will also have to say King of the Hill was a pretty decent show. I always enjoyed Dale and Bill, at the very least. I am surprised you hate it so much. I never thought it was that polarizing of a program. Family Guy can gits my blood a-boilin', but I have to give a pass to the unassuming and un-assholey King of the Hill.

Posted by: kiss the pan profile link in reply to Sharkleberry's comment at 07/10/09 6:44 PM | Reply
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I hate to be that guy, but you really don't get King of the Hill. The concept completely flies over your head, and no animated show has ever had the character development that show had. But you're determined to miss the point, so I will acknowledge and validate your choice in relatively obscure Kool-Aid flavours.

Posted by: MK in reply to Sharkleberry's comment at 07/10/09 9:53 PM | Reply
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Really, I don't get the antimocity towards King of the Hill. I think in terms of character-based humor it tops about any other animated show on television. No, I don't think it's the type of show to watch if you want to squirt milk out of your nose laughing, so maybe that's the beef, but in terms of narrative arch over a 22 minute episode, no other animated comedy comes close in my mind.

Posted by: Murphy Brown in reply to Sharkleberry's comment at 07/14/09 7:49 PM | Reply
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Beardzoid

Wait, so does this mean Cleveland isn't gonna be on Family Guy anymore?!!?!! Well, that show's fucked.

Posted by: Beardzoid profile link at 07/10/09 1:32 PM | Reply
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Are we sure this is real? It seems like a deliberately leaked fake episode. It's really slipshod and lazy.

The characters are speaking really slowly, like they're talking to a stupid child.

oh....

Posted by: surly at 07/10/09 1:37 PM | Reply
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Lou Reed

Ya king of the hill is great. End of Story. And Family Guy is a horrible disease that will haunt this country for a while. There isn't much we can do about that. It has an unstoppable mass appeal to a douche bag audience.

Posted by: Lou Reed profile link at 07/10/09 3:55 PM | Reply
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practicallyinformation

i watched the pilot earlier this week. it's SHOCKING how similar it is to FG. and is it weird to say that a cartoon character lacks the charisma to carry a cast? weird or not, Cleveland doesn't have it. i guess it's like this: take all the characters and settings of FG, copy them, and water them down about 40% and you've got The Cleveland Show. i guess that's why it got the greenlight for THIRTY SIX EPISODES. because network programming executives are mostly sheep.

Posted by: practicallyinformation profile link at 07/10/09 4:21 PM | Reply
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wait. did i say sheep? i meant geniuses.

Posted by: practicallyinformation profile link in reply to practicallyinformation's comment at 07/10/09 4:25 PM | Reply
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Is that shocking though? American Dad is just a watered down version of Family Guy, and that's the one that ISN'T a spin-off.

I'm just annoyed that MacFarlane seems to be making the same show FOR THE THIRD FUCKING TIME. Mike Judge followed Beavis & Butthead with the radically different King of the Hill (Which, I still don't get the hate for). Matt Groening followed The Simpsons with the radically different Futurama. And yet MacFarlane just keeps doing the same show over and over again. And it's especially annoying because it's not like this is his only outlet. If he wants to do Family Guy, he can just go work on American Dad. Or, you know, just do Family Guy.

Posted by: Christopher profile link in reply to practicallyinformation's comment at 07/10/09 7:00 PM | Reply
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practicallyinformation

i disagree. american dad has a political bent. american dad has a family that doesn't consist of a baby, a dumb middle brother and an older sister. admittedly, there's a talking alien (ie brian, i suppose) but it makes sense in the context of the show (at least to me) and provides a genuine protagonist who can be recycled because he's part of the family. i actually like American Dad more than Family Guy. i know i'm gonna get blasted for saying that, but Seth MacFarland is a co-producer on that show and you can tell a difference. the comedy structure is completely different and the characters have actual motivations to drive their stories. it really is a different beast. i will be the first to admit that American Dad is hit or miss...but 50% goodness (roughly) is better than nothing (ie: CSI).

this Cleveland thing is a straight up carbon-copy.

Posted by: practicallyinformation profile link in reply to Christopher's comment at 07/11/09 4:02 AM | Reply
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practicallyinformation

DAMN IT. i mean Antagonist. i always get those to mixed up. doh.

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:( to=two. Gabe...since we're a family now, can i email you to have you fix my typos?

Posted by: practicallyinformation profile link in reply to practicallyinformation's comment at 07/11/09 4:09 AM | Reply
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I can't really agree with you on that. The characters may have motivations but they're shitty, stupid motivations. Stan's motivations for being a wacky dick to his hot, long-suffering wife stem from him being a boring stereotype of a Republican, whereas Peter's stem from a general idea that this is the role the husband should play on a sitcom.

I just don't see one as being better then the other.

Also, there's that stupid fish who seems to be there for no other reason then that Family Guy had two wacky sidekicks. They never have anything for him to actually do in the show, so that's the only reason I can think that they'd include him.

I mean, yeah, they're not literally exactly the same, but again, there's nothing that compares to the differences between Futurama and The Simpsons or between Beavis and Butthead and King of the Hill.

Posted by: Christopher profile link in reply to practicallyinformation's comment at 07/11/09 9:42 PM | Reply
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Gene Hackman hasn't even been in a movie in 5 years. I think he's retired.

Posted by: zach profile link at 07/10/09 8:07 PM | Reply
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Gene Hackman hasn't even been in a movie in 5 years. I think he's retired.

Posted by: zach profile link at 07/10/09 8:08 PM | Reply
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the red, white, and blue

oh the funny things you do

Posted by: five inches but its thick at 07/11/09 5:10 AM | Reply
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I wish Lindsay was here. She would balance all the Gabe-hate. Without her, it's just Gabehateseverythingintheworldgum.com

Misanthropy. Le sigh.

Posted by: Napoleon Complex at 07/11/09 10:30 PM | Reply
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I have an idea! If you don't like Family Guy, don't watch it and stop your complaining about it. Same goes with The Cleveland Show, people will like it. But it doesnt have to affect you at all. I know, it's a pretty revolutionary idea. I personally don't like the show. I think it's stupid. But that doesn't mean I'm going to make fun of, or criticize someone who does like it. My brother loves it, and If he is watching it, I just leave the room. No big deal. Problem solved. It's not even about the show anymore, it's just the holier-than-thou approach to dealing with it, that's the problem. People like the goddamn show, and for people who do like it, they should not feel ashamed about it or try to defend it by saying it's their "guilty pleasure". You shold never be embarassed about something you like (a cliche statement, but true).

Posted by: Ellamental profile link at 07/12/09 12:39 PM | Reply
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...you're new to the Internet, aren't you?

Posted by: sam profile link in reply to Ellamental's comment at 07/12/09 6:19 PM | Reply
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mjwalrus

I was recently in mixed company and mentioned, wait for it... "I don't like family guy." The entire room fell silent and I was barraged by accusations, questions, and insults. Well, what about this: "QUOTE from family guy" or "do you like the Simpsons?" and "You just don't know what is funny" and "You must be pretty conservative."

Well, that's what really, really pissed me off. I wasn't trying to incite a Seth Mc. riot, but if I know anything- I do know what's funny. I consider myself a comedy snob, actually. And my self educated comedy snobbery deems Family Guy a huge freaking FAIL.

Also, I am not really conservative. I like raunchy stuff- if it's smart, for god's sake. Family Guy is NOT SMART. It's not even the brightest kid in the special class. But trying to explain this to comedy idiots was while being crucified by them was nearly impossible.

"Well, what DO you find funny?" I was asked. Humm, how about Futurama? Monty Pyton? Galifinakis (pre-Hangover)? Steve Martin (old comedy rec.)? Patton Oswalt? Ect.

I was met with confused faces.

"What about Stewie, you must think Stewie's funny!"

...sigh

Posted by: mjwalrus profile link at 07/13/09 4:13 AM | Reply
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You know, there's alot of things I don't like in the world, but I don't write reviews on them just for the hell of slandering. Please keep in mind that its a PREAIR, as in "Not Final Version"... I suppose you don't like American Dad either? Just look back on it's pilot and what it's today. We get, you have a problem with FG, so what?

For the love of St Nicholas, get a grip, man!

Posted by: Luigi at 07/13/09 5:59 AM | Reply
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While this episode may be "PREAIR," it doesn't change the fact that the show is a spin off, with a main character that has already been established. It also has a writing staff that already knows exactly what they are doing, because they have been doing it for the past 5 years. So no, I won't give this show any slack. I may not have seen the whole thing, but I still know that I would rather watch Full House reruns than this shit.

Posted by: RC in reply to Luigi's comment at 07/15/09 1:56 PM | Reply
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While this episode may be "PREAIR," it doesn't change the fact that the show is a spin off, with a main character that has already been established. It also has a writing staff that already knows exactly what they are doing, because they have been doing it for the past 5 years. So no, I won't give this show any slack. I may not have seen the whole thing, but I still know that I would rather watch Full House reruns than this shit.

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Not that it matters, or that anybody cares, but I completely agree with the writer's anti-FG sentiments here. The show sucks. But come on, this piece was horribly composed. With they myriad errors in grammar and punctuation, I can't imagine it took more than 45 minutes to write the whole thing up. If you're going to write a piece on how much FG sucks, do it right! That way, we FG haters don't seem, to the non-stereogum world, as completely idiotic as FG fans.

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Jaydubs

I think your comment would carry more weight if it didn't have a grammatical error itself. And also if the "errors" weren't intentional writing flourishes.

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I wonder how many of these negative rankings for those who are saying they like Family Guy would remain if Gabe had written that he liked Family Guy.

Too many people taking themselves and each other much too seriously. Please remember what this blog entry is about: an animated show that is a spin-off of another animated show that features a talking dog and baby.

Posted by: Tim at 07/14/09 10:59 AM | Reply
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MarkyBob

I think "Family Guy" is funny.

Posted by: MarkyBob profile link at 07/14/09 7:51 PM | Reply
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I think Family Guy is often hilarious, and like so many people have already said: Why must I be intellectually stimulated every time I watch TV? I like Family Guy because I can turn my mind off and laugh, and yeah sometimes I don't laugh, and yeah sometimes I'm downright offended - but who cares. For the most part, it's an entertaining show. What I'm pissed off about is a Cleveland spin-off? Such an uninteresting character...

Posted by: Ric at 07/15/09 3:32 PM | Reply
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If you want to watch something with random stuff watch Robot Chicken. At least it doesn't pretend to have a plot and its jokes/pop culture references actually make sense and are intelligent.

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Grinchy Paws

Is it even a black guy that does Clevelands voice? I dont think it is. I dont care enough to look into it. But that seems a bit wrong. Hi ho.

Posted by: Grinchy Paws profile link at 07/15/09 3:59 PM | Reply
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you know, for a show you supposedly cant stand youve spent quite a deal of time watching, thinking about, and writing about it. a quick search shows youve written four blog entries in two months about The Cleveland Show and the show hasnt even aired yet. only LOST deserves that much fandom. i think, like homophobics, your seth macfarlanephobia may be a secret obsession

Posted by: Kramerica at 07/15/09 6:29 PM | Reply
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Grinchy Paws

Dont forget about True Blood either.

Posted by: Grinchy Paws profile link in reply to Kramerica's comment at 07/16/09 3:19 PM | Reply
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family guy sucks, american dad sucks. so this will suck too.

king of the hill is quite clever actually, especially if u live in texas.

im waiting for the show where the mom is the one who misbehaves and the dad is the straight man.

Posted by: ThRobert at 07/15/09 9:16 PM | Reply
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