Lost: Season Finale
Whuuuuuuuuuuuuut?!
First thing's first, as they say in sports: nothin' but SPOILERS.
So, Jacob. He is real, and he is pretty cool. Even back in the 1600s he talks like a normal dude. One imagines that when that giant sailing ship landed on the old beach and everyone disembarked saying "what hast thou to sustain our personage" or "doest ye know wherein I can partake in a slumber," he was like "huh? Why don't you dudes talk normal?" Anyway, Real Jacob has a Real Nemesis who wishes he could Real Kill Him. But he can't. I don't know. Forget it, Jake, it's Shadow of the Statue Town. In any case, Jacob keeps bringing people to the island, but his nemesis, we will call him Boblo, wants to keep people away from the island because all they do when they get there is fight and destroy and corrupt (they corrupt?) and it always ends the same way. "It only ends once, anything that happens before that is just progress," Jacob says. This, of course, sets up one of the classic narrative conflicts:
Man vs. Nature
Man vs. Man
Man vs. Himself
Jacob vs. Fish
Jacob vs. Boblo
I am already on the edge of my seat. What happens next?
Jacob, it turns out, has been there all along! BOOM GOES THE MINDAMITE. Here he is buying Kate a New Kids on the Block lunchbox. Here he is giving Baby Sawyer a pen to write his murder letter. Here he is congratulating Sun and Jin on their wedding in fluent Korean. Man, Jacob is the best. I wish he was my immortal friend. My favorite is when he gives Jack a candy bar.
Jacob's interference in the lives of the Losties is kind of weird. Like, thanks for the candy bar, Jacob, sure, but really? You traveled all the way from the island to hand Jack a candy bar years before he is going to plane crash into your home? Meanwhile you give Hurley the tough sell to get him back to the island (and the tough guitar)? And you basically murder Sayid's wife? And you wait for the exact moment of Locke's paralysis to give him words of encouragement? Why do some people's encounters with Jacob seem meaningless while others seem quite meaningful? JACOB WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS.
So Locke wants Ben to kill Jacob, and he takes him to the shadow of the statue, or whatever, but then it turns out that LOCKE ISN'T LOCKE! Locke is Boblo! The first rule of Lost Club is you do not talk about Lost Club! He found his loophole? I don't know. These guys are ancient, we can't be expected to understand their Middle English. Jacob gives Ben a choice, to kill him or not to kill him. Although Locke before (we knew) he was Boblo gave Ben a pretty convincing rationale for killing Jacob (cancer, his daughter's death, banishment), and it's clear that Jacob does not like Ben. Who does? Even the smoke monster is like "ew, Ben is gross." So Ben straight stabs a Jacob. And as he is dying, just before Boblo kicks him into the fire (HOW'D IT GET BURNED? HOW'D IT GET BURNED HOW'D IT GET BURNED!) he is like, "They're coming."
Who does he mean? Does he mean the New Losties, who have just shown up outside the statue with Real Locke's body and seem to know all about Boblo and are maybe Jacob's pals? Or does he mean Classic Losties returning from the '70s? Or does he mean someone else entirely? This is called a cliffhanger, because of how similar it is to gripping with your fingertips at the ledge of survival as your legs swing freely over an enormous crevasse of death. For eight months.
MEANWHILE, 30 years ago, Jack wants to detonate Faraday's hydrogen bomb to make it so that this whole show has all just been a dream. Sayid helps him use Faraday's notes to extract the core from the bomb buried in the tunnels so that it can be easily transported via rucksack to the Swan site. My favorite part is when Sayid is doing this and Jack asks if he's done with Faraday's journal. "Oh, you mean the journal I'm using to help guide me through the process of extracting a nuclear device from a 20 ton warhead, which I'm not at all done doing? Sure, take it." Jack takes it.
Learned: at some point, Faraday's mom was leader of the island. WRITE IT DOWN IN YOUR LOST MOLESKIN.
Kate convinces Juliet to help her escape from the submarine to go stop Jack from detonating a hydrogen bomb and killing everyone on the island. Luckily for them, Juliet is highly trained in Krav Maga? How is it possible for her to be handcuffed to a table, and still be able to totally destroy a security guard? Juliet Jaa over here. Anyway, now they are back on the island and they find Rose and Bernard, who are living peacefully in the jungle and want no part of this continuing drama. Fair enough.
One loose end tied up, 500,000 to go.
Jack and Sayid surface from the tunnels in the Dharma camp and try to "hide in plain sight." Oldest trick in the book. But it doesn't work. They are spotted. Sayid is shot in the stomach. Jack has a monster shoot out and kills a bunch of dudes, which again, I'd just like to point out, dude is a doctor! Where did he get this live ammunition combat training and his complete disregard for human life? Miles and Hurley save them in a Dharma van and everyone is on a ROAD TRIIIIIIP to the Swan station, but that is when they run into Sawyer and Kate and Juliet, and Sawyer is like "give me five minutes," and Jack is like "five minutes." Sawyer's argument to talk Jack out of blowing up the hydrogen bomb seems to amount to "why don't you just not do that," which to be fair to Jack is not very convincing. Perhaps Sawyer's FISTS will convince him! The fight is pretty evenly matched, lots of solid punches to the face.
Fuck HD, nigga see how clear my view is?
Sawyer takes the mount and is about to submit Jack (no jujo) but Juliet breaks it up because she has decided that Jack is right, the best thing to do right now is detonate a hydrogen bomb. OK! I feel bad for Sawyer. What a trained monkey, fighting what he's told. He asks Juliet what changed and she says that she saw how Sawyer looked at Kate. Man, tell me about it. Jealousy is the worst. I can't tell you how many times I've been in a romantic situation where I thought, fuck this, no one treats me this way, DETONATE THE HYDROGEN BOMB.
Miles hydrogen bombs my mind when he suggests that maybe detonating the hydrogen bomb is what already happened in the past and is actually the reason for their plane crashing in the first place. Boom. It is like nuclear winter up in my head. Everyone gets real quiet for a second, but then they're like "shut up, Miles."
Blah blah blah, shoot out with that fucking nerd.
Hate that guy. Who made him King Shit of Lost Mountain? Jack drops the bomb and it's all very "Hide and Seek" (2:53). But then...nothing. And then...MAGNETS!
Jack, look out!
Toolbox to your dome!
Tiny nerd gets impaled by some metal stuff. Bye, tiny nerd! Dr. Chang's hand gets crushed by some metal stuff. Bye, Dr. Chang's hand! And then, of course, Juliet falls down the CGI mineshaft. I guess that's sad. THAT IT WASN'T KATE! (Zing.) Bye, Juliet.
Except, of course, that Juliet isn't dead! She is basically dead, but she is not dead. So she picks up a rock and smashes it against the hydrogen bomb. Apparently, when it was tossed down the mine shaft, it fell into a bed of feather pillows, because all it takes to set that thing off is the dying rock slap of an 80 pound woman. And then...KABAM.
See you next year.
Posted by Gabe at 1:15 PM in Love-Watching
Tags: Carlton Cuse | Damon Lindelof | JJ Abrams | Lost
dat girl is hot!! LOL an loke out for da flieing tool box!!!! LOL it hit dat dude in da HED!
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Wait, who are you talking about? The girl from the Bad Day video? Or Rose?
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I think he's talking about Imogen Heap.
And yes, she is a lovely woman.
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i meen da singin girl. duhhh
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Anyone else notice that Jacob = rug pisser from Lebowski? That is some inspired casting.
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Boblo=Esau.
Time to go back to Sunday school, or Hebrew school or whatever.
Read Genesis 25 onward peeps.
where the hell did you get Boblo anyway?
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NOT A SPOILER ALERT: Kate is still the worst.
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Such a good season finale. Locke was just a pawn all along.. great stuff.
Also, it's very possible that this, so-called Boblo IS the smoke monster
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Possible AND likely.
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I loved that most of the episode was really just an extended "RELAX, NERD," although my roommate and I did get in a couple of "Relax, 'technojeremy'" zings.
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Also I have been waiting all morning for this review. I'm so glad you guys are pure energy again. I wondered by all the telephones in my office rang at once.
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Which of Jacob's visits wasn't meaningful? I mean, sure Jacob bought Kate a NKOTB (yes!) lunchbox, but little dude next to her is holding that plane!
Kate IS the worst.
NKOTB, on the other hand....
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Juliet and Kate's motivations were all kinds of messed up.
Juluet: "Don't let Jack detonate the bomb because of death. . . oh wait you looked at Kate. Nevermind, shut this island down."
Kate:"Don't let Jack detonate the bomb because of death and our redemptive post-crash lives . . . oh nevermind I am completely cool with this now or whatever."
Score = 27
I was getting super annoyed that no one had mentioned that if they went back to the future and the future was LAX, Kate would be in handcuffs. Then Sawyer mentioned it. He is, apparently, the only one that cares. Because Jack is all like, well, I lost her and it's too late to get her back so I might as well send her to jail where no one else can love her either.
Score = 26
I think she will find lots of love in jail, due to her density.
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This was maybe the worst ten minutes of the season... right smack dab in a relatively awesome finale. Well, ok, this was bad, then fucking Magnetron City was the second worst because.... OHSHITCHAINSAREDRAGGINGMEAWAYFROMMYKEYBOARD.... HOW'D THEY GET WRAPPED AROUND ME SO QUICK?!?!?!?!?!?!?! DON'T LET GO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....
(seriously though, pretty awesome finale.)
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I think Juliet had every reason to change her mind, and then be the one to detonate the bomb. I'm surprised she's lasted this long, she was like the Lost punching bag: her sister/bff is dying of cancer in the future, her parents broke up when she was young, her Young Man is murdered by Ana Lucia, she's been trying to get off the island for years (even before 815 showed up) but held back by Ben, she liked Jack, Jack loves Kate, she loves Sawyer, he stared longingly at Kate as Rose and Bernard sang a duet of Endless Love and now she's (mostly) dead but somehow still alive and lying within arms reach of a hydrogen bomb.
I get it. Gurl.... you do what you need to do.
Score = 27
I wonder if instead of rigging the bomb to explode on impact, sayid deactivated it and the reason everything went all white was that all the energy or whatever was released from the mineshaft or maybe it was another time flash or something.
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I thought the same thing. I mean the possibility is there, he asked to change something about it right before Jack left, and Sayid is definitely sneaky enough to pull one over on the Doc. But I guess the question has to be why Sayid would do that.
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I just like calling Boblo "Zombie Locke", so bear with me
I firmly believe Zombie Locke has been all the dead people we've seen on the island. Christian [in the cabin Jacob apparently doesn't live in], as Ecko's brother, Ben's Daughter, all of them. And, big guess, Zombie Locke is also the smoke monster. That would make a ton of sense.
Also, I HATE THAT NERD!
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Agreed!
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Juliette ends up being a majorly BA!! (I'll have nightmares of her smashing that bomb crying all bloody begging for uncertain death for 8 straight months.)
Also its not fair to say bye to Juliette without first saying bye to Juliette fantastically bouncing boobs... which appeared out of no where last season.
loooks like Ben was the pawn all along. Take dat!
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Juliet becomes the smoke monster because she was fuckin' SMOKING this season. Shame that the hottest woman on the show is dead.
Score = 35
vincent was living with rose and bernard too! don't forget vincent!
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I...doubt they're the real Esau and Jacob.
But I guess anything is possible.
Rose and Bernard. I just...love them.
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"Jacob and Esau were fraternal twins who spent the majority of their lives in a fierce rivalry. When Esau finally got the upper hand and killed Jacob, Jacob's children rose up and overpowered Esau and his followers." Sounds pretty plausible to me....
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...and you have to admit that Zombie/Boblo/Esau was sort of a hairy dude. Sooorta makes you wonder.. Jacob's Ladder much?
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Wow, that's some good sleuthing... seems like exactly what's going to happen
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i thought jacob killed esau (according to the Book of Jujubees)
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..and LOST already has a history of biblical references. For instance.. Smoke monster first appeared in a two-part episode entitled 'Exodus'. In the Bible's book of Exodus, a pillar of smoke by day, which also appeared as a pillar of fire by night, guided the Israelites out of Egypt.
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Plus the whole "faith vs. science" theme of the entire show.
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Poor Locke. He had such a sad life and thought he finally found a purpose, but he was just a pawn in someone else's game.
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Did anyone see the close-up of the eye that opens at the end after it faded to white?
Cause people are telling me that happened, and I didn't see it. Speculation that it's Jack's eye, a la the very first episode...
Also, any translation yet as to what the response to "What lies in the shadow of the statue" is?
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Ille qui nos omnes servabit - “He who will protect us all."
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I believe it is actually, "He who will save us all," in Latin (I know, I know... Relax Nerd).
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"He who will save us." But its still pretty up in the air who that exactly refers to.
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you're kidding right? jacob - jacob lies in the shadow of the statue
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That's definately likely, but when has anything that seemed obvious on this show actually come to fruition.
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That is the exact same reacton I had to Juliet's death. When wil it be Kate's turn? WHEN!!!11!!!?
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Ever since Juliet first appeared on the scene with her insanely irritating smug smile, I've been hoping she'd get killed off in some gruesome way. BUT THEN. Then she had to turn all less-annoying-than-Kate in the last few episodes and be all "James I love you so much!" that I was actually SAD when she presumably bit it.
I hope Kate dies too, and then Jack and Sawyer realize that they are totes gay for each other, and ditch the Lost island for Fire Island. That would be the best ever.
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... with Hurley as their be-thonged houseboy.
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That's impossible. This Locke with 'purpose' was Boblo/Zombie Locke/Loophole Guy/Esau the whole time. He didn't truly believe he had a purpose. He DIED. He's DEAD.
P.S. How great of an actor is he!!??
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He who will protect us.
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He who will protect us all.
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Juliet is dead and we're all better for it, and I wish she took fucking Kate down with her. Miles is the smartest person on the show and everyone's just running around like dicks with their dicks cut off, crying about love and loss and not fucking up their beach-front property, and he's all, "Hey, fucking idiots, how about we take a moment and use our head...OH FUCK DADDY! NO!"
But I do love this show. Trust.
Score = -6
So what shall we call new Zombie Locke?
Lockleganger?
Deadlocke?
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Definitely like Lockleganger
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Ryan and Jen on The Transmission were using "Flock" (fake Locke). I liked that one.
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My gut thought that the eye was Jack's because of the whole how Season 1 and Season 5(?) started with him waking up. But I got a better look at it, a friend paused it, and it really looks like Juliet's eye. ALSO WHERE WAS DEZ?! Was this punishment for his "motor-boating" affair? Also ALSO, I'm pretty sure that ship in the beginning was the Black Rose!
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It looked like Kate's eye to me. It was green and Juliet has blue eyes.
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Black Rose is Bernard's wifey. The Black Rock is the ship.
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This is so confusing.
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They have got the ages so fucked up on this show. Kate looks like she's about in her mid to late 30s. The "present time" on this show is about 2007, so Kate is in her mid to late 30s in 2007. Now I know I am not older than Kate because I don't look older than Kate, and I'm 32 years old in 2009. In 2007 I was about 30. Given my own timeframe, within my lifetime, NKOTB was HUGE when I was about 13 and 14. So why in the world is about 8 year old Kate stealing a NKOTB lunch box when she should be stealing some kind of Smurf lunchbox when she was 8?
Score = -18
Kate / Evangeline was born in 79 which puts her at about 25 when the plane crashed, and 28 in the current timeline. She could be about 8-10 in that flashback and everything lines up just fine.
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Nah, she doesn't look 25-28. I've seen 28 year old homeless chicks on meth that looked younger than Kate does. It might be the enormous amount of hate I feel towards her, but she sure does look worn out for someone that's supposedly in the mid to late 20s.
Score = -23
Retraction - I think it is "protect"
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Juliet seemed like she did want that cup of tea. She was like ' Yeah, tea sounds good right about now. Oh, but I have to go stop Jack from dropping a hydrogen bomb down a shaft. It's always something, Rose and Bernard".
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I was looking at the twitter #LOST tag and seriously like all of the tweets were about how Kate should have died instead of Juliet.
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Sawyer: RAWRLRRR!!!!
Juliette: I love you!
Sawyer: NOOOOOO!!!
Juliette: I love you?
Sawyer: NO!!!!
Score = 14
Who cares if it was Juliet vs. Kate down the well, I'm pretty sure they all die when the HYDROGEN BOMB goes off.
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To sum up the finale a la Tracy Jordan: "TWIST"
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The shot of Juliette looking at the sub re-submerging in the first part mad me go "WHY DID YOU GET OFF THE SUB?" I just knew she was going to die then. Must it always be my favorite characters that are killed.
I think Kate will be my favorite character next year if that is in fact the case.
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"Even back in the 1600s he talks like a normal dude."
I think you mean 1800's. 1881 to be exact. Not a huge difference I guess, but still, I think people sounded significantly different in 1600's than they did in 1881.
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Relax, Nerd!
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Pretty sure it's "Juliet" One E, one T. Two fantastic sweater kittens.
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Is anybody else disappointed (and/or suspicious) about the fact that Jacob is in reality Dexter's girlfriend's crazy, drug-addict ex-husband?
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That's how I know that dude! Been trying to figure that out since last night. Thank you. Hopefully someone will invent some sort of movie database for the internet someday.
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"I can't tell you how many times I've been in a romantic situation where I thought, fuck this, no one treats me this way, DETONATE THE HYDROGEN BOMB. "
I'm totally telling that story to my grandkids.
Score = 9
Even the smoke monster is like "ew, Ben is gross." You've got me, Gabe.
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i think it was jack's eye at the very end. i wouldn't be surprised if season 5 began just like 1 began, but with a twist. they still crash, but this time they know what's what. THEORY!
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LOST - Season 6 / Episode 1: "Groundhog Day"
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To anyone suggesting that the episode ended with Jack's eye opening, keep in mind that the shot you saw of Jack's eye was just the preview for the final season. The actual episode ended with the reverse title screen.
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NOT FAIR! I MISS BOBLO ISLAND! You can't go around calling bearded dudes Boblo, Gabe. Call him Beardo instead.
Great Finale and a ton of questions are left to be answered. I can't tell from the pic, but did anyone happen to count the toes on Jacob? He appeared barefoot in the first scene.
The reason I ask is cause the first time we saw the foot statue, someone mentioned how it only had four toes and that's a fact I've been carrying around in my head for a long time. I think it's aliens! FOUR TOED ALIENS. And I think the "they're coming" people are the rest of the aliens. And if Jacob has only four toes...
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i never saw such a girly way to stab someone...
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I KNOW! At first I thought he hadn't even stabbed him. At first I thought the knife bent like if you were stabbing Superman. I was all excited, until Jacob fell to the ground all dying.
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how did you know about my Lost Moleskin???
i wish i could inside Gabe's mind- it must be like The Aleph in there.
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Rumors are swirling that next season will start with Juliette in the shower, telling Sawyer she had the craziest dream about 1977, hydrogen bombs and time travel being the new hotness.
The rumors swirling inside my head that is.
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My question is where is Desmond? I like him and feel bad when he isn't around.
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WORST SEASON FINALE, EVER!
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From Wikipedia (Esau):
"In the Book of Jubilees (which is neither part of the Jewish nor most Christian canons), Esau's father, Isaac, compels Esau to swear not to attack or kill Jacob after Isaac has died. However, after the death of Isaac, the sons of Esau convince their father to lead them, and hired mercenaries, against Jacob in order to kill Jacob and his family and seize their wealth, (especially the portion of Isaac's wealth that Isaac had left to Jacob upon his death). In the ensuing battle, Jacob kills Esau with an arrow. The sons of Jacob then defeat the rest of the attackers despite overwhelming odds.
Some of the sons of Esau are spared, but they are sworn to serve and pay fealty to Jacob."
Why a born Jewish/practicing Catholic such as Abrams would be interested in the ongoing story of Israel vs. Edom is...well, it's not that hard to see, is it?
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The seeming meaningfulness or meaninglessness of everyone's encounter with Jacob isn't the point. Notice that in every situation, he physically touches each of them. That's the key.
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It took me a little while to realize this (because I am dumb), but Jacob didn't murder Nadia, he kept Sayid from also being hit by the car. He would have been right next to her if Jacob hadn't pulled him aside for directions.
Also, I think the candy bar was a metaphor for something. PAGING MY 7TH GRADE ENGLISH TEACHER.
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Since Nadia and Sayid were walking across the road when it happened, I think by the time that car had gotten there it they both would have made it safely across.
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It's important that he handed Jack a candy bar in that moment because that moment, his talk with his father and the surgery that preceded it was a defining moment for Jack.
Remember his whole count to five philosophy?
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Boblo is another deadwood guy. A lot of deadwood and OZ actors pop up on lost. OZ has the stronger SVU connection though. Why did Sawyer not just kill the Worst Nerd? And why did the insult comic from Mad Men nerd want to kill Sawyer so bad when Sawyer actively elected not to kill him? When did Jack become John McClaine? Sawyer punched him like three times in the face and once in the kidneys to start the fight. That should be pretty much game over, no?
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Also of note: He kicked him straight in the groceries
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He's still getting over seeing the trash lady behind the diner in Mulholland Drive, he's a little sensitive.
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THE BOMB NEVER WENT OFF. I'm pretty sure if it feel down that huge ass shaft and didnt' go off, like Gabe said, then a flailing soon to be dead person wouldn't do the trick either. I'm declaring this the first post of TEAM DARK MATTER. (your going down team h-bomb)
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...fell...didn't...we can't spell but we can fight!
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did anyone else think this finale was kind of retarded / poorly executed?.... basically people just mulled around, then some random unknown character kills off jacob (who hasn't really been important to the plot), and then the bomb goes off with no real closure on anything at all. this is like the finale to season one when they finally open the hatch and reveal..................... a ladder. however, great arrested development reference with the fade to white.
Score = -20
So Jacob's nemesis, aka Boblo, is all the dead people that keep popping up in Lost? Hmmmm... When Jacob said he found "the loophole", I'm guessing he meant a way to kill him. I don't get what loophole is that just yet. Damn you Lost!
I thought Jacob went to visit Locke so he could revive him. He looked death and then Jacob put his hand on the forehead and brought him back to a new meaningful life.
The weakest part for me was the Sawyer/Jack showdown. Sawyer's points were weak and the high level of color red in the fake blood was ridiculous. The last couple of episodes those make-up people were just phoning it in.
Everyone's reason to back-up or oppose the nuke down were mostly stupid. I felt bad for Sawyer in the end, I hate it when hot guys cry. :(
And I did not catch any eye in the white-out. I'm going to watch it again as soon as the stupid ABC site lets me update the stupid player.
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Hey remember that movie where Juliette makes out with Angelina Jolie? Mmmmm....
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Too many comments to read through, so I don't know if sombody already said this, but I don't think jacob basically murderd sayid's girlfriend, but prevented sayid from getting murdered along side her.
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Did anyone else notice how the Jacob woven tapestry was made entirely of "screen beans," those old school clip art guys?
Losties = Ctrl + Alt + Del
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Locke Ness (Smoke) Monster
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are you even allowed to say "nigga" on the internet?
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Maybe the island is the garden of eden? God hid that shit after Adam and Eve got all grabby grabby with the fruit and no one has seen it since.
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I basically have thought the same thing for forevs. That this is the garden of Eden, and peeps have returned to witness the rebirth of humankind or something like that.
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I'm very interested in Ilana's role now....when Jacob comes to her in the hospital with her face bandaged (yet to be revealed how she was hurt, I'm sure)...it seems like it may have been in the past also, judging from the hospital beds, etc. I think her role will be significant next season....
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Kudos on the Boblo reference and thanks for linking the commercial I hadn't seen/heard in - what - 20 years? Now that song is stuck in my head :)
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Alright, Bizarro Jacob/Smoke Monster/Jacob's Rival all the same people. I don't think Locke is the only body that "Esau" has taken hold of. I think that all of the dead people that have showed up were inhibited by "Esau", as he was bouncing from body to body to get to Locke, as Locke was the only one that was going to be able to convice someone to kill Jacob...Also, when Jacob stated, "they are coming", he was talking about the survivors that were in 1977. I think the show's message is going to come down to "free will" and if humanity has any redeemable qualities and is worth saving. This is the difference between Jacob and "Esau". If you listen to what Jacob said to each of the survivors when he was visiting him, he was telling them what to do so that they did not end up in the situations that they eventually did end up in, such as telling Sun/Jin-Do not take your love for granted...they take their love for granted. Also, if you remember the conversation between Jacob and Esau at the beginning, Esau says something along the lines of that they always end up messing up, talking about the people Jacob bring to the Island, and Jacob stating that each time is progress...which makes one think that this there have been other groups that have failed for whatever reason on the island or the island resets itself Matrix style each time. The big question I have is what destroyed the statue...for whatever reason, Ben did not want to divulge that info.
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I'm going under the assumption that the statue broke apart due to the Incident. If it was still in one piece when the Hatch blew, I'm sure it would've broken up then.
I think Jacob was doing things that would lead the Losties to the situation they now are in. When he bought Kate the lunchbox he let her off the hook for stealing and thus maybe leading her to think she can get away with it. He gave the pen to Sawyer so he could finish his letter and ultimately try to find his parents' killer. His interactions with Locke, Sayid, and Hurley are pretty clear. The problems are Jack and Sun & Jin; I don't remember if he even said anything significant to Jack, and I'm not sure how telling Sun & Jin to not take their love for granted would contribute to them ultimately doing so. Whatevs.
Score = 3
The finale was great. I guess I should care about Ilana now, but I don't. She's like Ana Lucia 2 Electric Bugaloo. I'm over her already. I will miss Juliet and I'm pretty sure that Rose and Bernard end up being those Adam and Eve skulls they found in the cave back in the day. Also, Jacob lives in foot? That's kinda bleak, even for Jacob! I can watch Jack getting hit in the head with a toolbox all day!
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Yes, Five Iron Frenzy reference!
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Netflix Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo. I'll be waiting for my thank you.
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I believe someone 'touched' on this already, but Jacob's meeting with the Losties was not meaningless. Cause i'm basically a Radzinsky, I saw a teaser in which Damon Lindleof overtly stated that the episode would be 'touching, and not in the conventional emotional way'
Go back and watch online and you'll see that in each instance, Jacob touches each of the Losties:
- handing pen, candy bar to Sawyer, Jack
- touches Kate on the nose
- touches Sun and Jin on the shoulder
- touches Sayid's back
- touches Locke (and presumably brings him back to life)
- touches Hurley in cab
They're all destined for something...
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Oh and notice how Jacob was dressed in white and Boblo was dressed in black?
Remember Locke's conversation with Walt in the first episode about Backgammon? Black vs. White stones, good vs. evil etc.
Oh and Adam and Eve skeletons found in first season - one had a white stone, the other a black.
i know....relax nerd.
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also, note how "Esau" was pissed that people were coming to the island to 'corrupt' it. He's protective, the smoke monster is a security system, etc etc
maybe common sense, but hadn't really seen it noted here.
It makes sense (well LOST sense) that he was Locke, Christian, and Yemi- all their bodies were on the island, but "Esau" was also Kate's horse?
still bugging me: where is Walt going to come into all of this? What is Claire doing while "Esau"/Smokey is off doing other shit and not being Christian Shepherd?
and yeah, poor Locke, man. he really got the shit end of the stick- moreso than anyone else I can think of on the show. Maybe Naomi for dying a trillion times? Nah, Locke got thrown out a window by his dad, paralyzed, dumped, found a purpose, got shot, lost his purpose, found his purpose again, got off the island and lost his purpose.
God damn. Still, that last shot of "his" face in that fire. Some of the most affecting/chilling shit this show has been able to get at me with.
Can Charlie and Eko come back yet? Please? Pretty please?
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Maybe I'm reaching here because I'm the one who likes Juliet, but is it possible she's still alive in some sort of "Desmond with the failsafe key" type scenario? Same Dharma statation, and that 'incident' was a fade to white too, right?
No more Sawyer/Kate/Jack triangle, plz!
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Wow do I ever like Juliet and sure hope you're right. She could survive in a Desmond-with-failsafe situation as you suggest, or through a the-nuke-sends-all-their-asses-back-to-2007 type situation (where she and Sayid are both implausibly saved by Jack's medical prowess). Sadly, though, Elizabeth Mitchell has a role in ABC's "V" remake, which has has been picked up for next season, so the odds are we won't be seeing much of Juliette next season. Me = sad.
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This is hands down the most hilarious LOST recap site I've ever seen. I ALMOST look forward to to this as much as the episodes themselves.....ALMOST.
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Words cannot describe how loudly I just laughed. Worthy of an all-caps 'lol'. LOL.
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The stuff with Jacob, especially both scenes near the statue, was some of the best Lost moments so far. The sad thing? If you take those parts out, this is easily the worst Lost episode of the whole series.
The reasons for these characters wanting to blow up the bomb were beyond groan-inducing. They completely butchered the entire character of Juliet, right before they killed her off. Basically for the whole series she has been strong and independent and at the drop of the hat she turns into a jealous sixteen year old? Her "because you looked at Kate" answer might as well be answering the question: "So why don't you want to go to the prom with me anymore?" The same with Jack's "because I lost her" answer. You'd think after 5 seasons, these characters could have some motivations that at least hint at actual human thinking.
And these characters all go along with Jack wanting to blow up a hydrogen bomb, despite it making no sense? No one stopped for a second and said: "Hey Jack, you do know you can't prevent ever being on this island by being on this island to blow up a hydrogen bomb, right?" or "If you're in Los Angeles, whose going to be here to blow up this bomb? Maybe this plan isn't so good after all, we should probably get out of here."
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I know i shouldn't post here because i don't usually watch the show and I am not a fan, but this show is so truly terrible. How can I, as a viewer, be expected to give shit about the show when the writers/JJ Abrams obviously have no idea where the hell the story is going. The story makes no sense, there are 50 characters too many, the music is fucking dumb and redundant (how many times can you insert a crescendo in a minor key?)... I am sure i could find more to complain about if i tried, but really it doesn't matter. If you enjoy the show, more power to you. I just get frustrated that everyone around me loves this show, and it seems so utterly absurd to me.
Score = -29
I'm wondering, if you really find L O S T to be a lame TV show, what shows currently on television do you find to be brilliant or well-made (excluding comedies). I agree that the mythology has taken many twists, but I think it's one of the best journeys that a tv serial has ever taken its viewers on.
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Juliet was the only one who could have blowed up that Nuke because she was the only one who didn't crash on the island. The whole magic course correction that we have seen so far will not permit someone who shouldn't die from killing themselves. Juliet wasn't on the plane so if she undoes the crash she could theoretically still blow up the nuke. But whatever, ever since that last TERRIBLE farady show they threw out their own time travel rules.
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I'm wondering, if you really find L O S T to be a lame TV show, what shows currently on television do you find to be brilliant or well-made (excluding comedies). I agree that the mythology has taken many twists, but I think it's one of the best journeys that a tv serial has ever taken its viewers on.
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They're all in purgatory.
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