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Taylor Swift is on the cover of the new issue of Vanity Fair, because I guess we finally ran out of photos of JFK Jr. (oh snap very good Vanity Fair covers burn, Gabe!). She says a bunch of stuff in the article, I guess, I haven’t read it because I am a grown man and I recognize that my time on this Earth is limited and therefore precious, but there is one quote that is getting the most buzz today. It is what Taylor Swift said in response to being asked about Tina Fey and Amy Poehler making a joke about her at the Golden Globes. From Vanity Fair (via Vulture)
“Katie Couric is one of my favorite people because she said to me she had heard a quote that she loved, that said, ‘there’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help other women.’”
Ayo fucking shut the fuck up though, Taylor Swift! You humorless monster! For one thing, that is just a very lame reaction to what was for sure a decent joke about you. But more importantly, if you want be the torchbearer of protecting women, you are going to need to find some better enemies than AMY POEHLER and TINA FEY. If anything, this proposal of them as being anti-woman shows just how little Taylor Swift actually understands about, well, everything, but also women and the world of women and the women in that world of women. Not to mention the fact that even if Amy Poehler and Tina Fey were good anti-feminist targets to single out, there are very few things that are less pro-woman than claiming that a woman you don’t like for any reason is going to hell. Do you see, Taylor Swift, how that logic kind of circles back on itself and chokes to death? It’s like Batman said, heroes either die or live long enough to shut up Taylor Swift. I do love that Katie Couric is one of her favorite people because she told her that she heard a quote one time. OMG, BFF 4EVA! “I heard a quote one time.” “Do you want to sleep over?!” (Verbatim.) Anyway but shut up, Taylor Swift. The only thing I want to hear coming out of your mouth is Diet Coke burps.
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please, please, please write a song about it!!!!!
Do you think she really writes her own songs? (asking for a friend)
* by the way great BURN Gabe.
gabe! u were on *fire* so to speak!!!
“It’s like Batman said, heroes either die or live long enough to shut up Taylor Swift.”
My new (only) favorite quote entry on Facebook.
I like that quote you shared. Best friends now?
How hard was it for the Vanity Fair writer to keep a straight face during this? Scale of Bill Hader to Jimmy Fallon?
Not hard at all. The reporter was too busy scribbling notes about whatever salad Taylor was eating.
“But women who write songs about how much dick their crush’s girlfriend sucks are, like, totally going to Heaven.”
–Madeleine Albright, probably
Yeah. I mean, I object to the apparent idea that being pro-woman or a feminist or however people put it means blindly supporting anyone no matter what they do because they are a woman. Nope! That’s silly.
Also there are special hells for everything these days. Hell must be a pain in the ass to navigate.
I mean I feel like general hell is pretty bad, so if I had my pick I’d take whatever’s behind the special circle door. What if this circle of hell is special because it’s actually just a spa for jezebels staffed by beautiful demons?
Maybe they have cookies or special cocktails?
I really hope there is a harridan lounge. I would love a harridan lounge.
Maybe it’s a mildly ironic hell: just like everything you’ve described, but the cookies are terrible.
I hope it’s like the Gold Bar on RuPaul’s Drag race. I will even take the Interior Illusions lounge!
It’s just like that time Lena Dunham said “Anyone who thinks Taylor Swift isn’t good for the girl cause has to be crazy, because any woman who’s dominating the charts, the creative director of her own empire, and made whatever millions of dollars last year is only lifting us up.”
EVERY GIRL WHO HAS EVER DONE ANYTHING IS GREAT, NO MORE QUESTIONS.
thank GOD Rhianna’s songs do well because otherwise we’d all be doing dishes right now! Thanks, Lena Dunham!
I wonder if they have shrines to Sarah Palin in their wallets.
Careful… I’m sure even Sarah Palin counts as one of those other women, which some may consider an ironic twist for Katie Couric.
I remember how there were people legit trying to get me to vote for McCain because of Palin. “But there’s a woman on the ticket. You support women!”
Well now you know those people were just trying to save you from hell. I’ll bet your face is red.
But is there a special place for women who don’t help other women who don’t help other women, or does it all cancel itself out? Seems like we’re running out of room in hell lately. Good thing zombie stories are so popular these days.
I do think there’s something of a point there, though. There are tons of guys who dominate charts, direct their own empire, and made whatever millions of dollars, or whatever the variations are for other fields. Just the fact that Taylor Swift is doing all that for herself and is at that level DOES do something for women. The fact that she doesn’t do ENOUGH in some (a lot of) estimations, or that she herself can be kind of awful doesn’t negate that.
The first female president may do nothing to advance the legal rights of women, but she’d still be the first female president.
But I have a serious problem with women who oppress other women yet try to appeal to the sisterhood or what have you. Yes, it is good that there are successful women, but if there is only one type of successful woman, and that success is based on shaming and degrading other women, I can’t call that a success. And I do frankly think Taylor Swift falls into that category, with her ‘aw shucks I’m just a simple girl not like those SLUUUUUTTTSSSSSSSS’ lyrics. Not to beat a dead horse, but yes, it is good to have women Governors, but Sarah Palin being elected Governor of Alaska was not really going to advance the cause for women.
Serena Joy was terrible in a book. I can’t approve of her ilk in the real world.
I don’t disagree, I just still think there’s a sliver of a point in that particular comment from Dunham.
I mean, I rage and fight about Palin being elected anything at all, but I still think that it’s at least somewhat good to have a diversity of people to hate and bemoan and be horrified by.
I hope there is a special place in hell for whoever designed it so that there are so many special places.
Timmy, you are on your mahfuckin GAME.
wow seriously vanity fair.
Tough words from the girl who wears t-shirts.
“Next. Murderer? Take this ticket and proceed to the left. Next, Rapist? Take this ticket and proceed to the left. Next. Oh shit! A woman who didn’t help another women?! Hold on a sec. Danny? Danny?! Did the shuttle for the special place leave yet?” — Hell Admissions
I didn’t really get the joke though. Stay away from Michael J Fox’s son because… she will write a song about him? And was his son there, or did they just randomly pick a celebrity who has a kid? I’m sure it was very funny because I trust those ladies to be funny, but it was totally lost on me.
He was Mr. Golden Globe. Very very strange how you don’t remember that he was Mr. Golden Globe.
Clearly fatima didn’t use her Mr. Golden Globe of the day calendar.
I don’t actually watch the globes because my time on this planet is finite, as Gabe likes to point out. I just saw the gifs of the jokes and watched some of their bits on the youtubes. Thank you though, that makes a ot more sense now!!
Michael J. Fox’s son was there. I guess the Golden Globes have celebrity children help give out the awards? There is title for it, but I don’t remember what it’s called. He is probably around the same age as Taylor Swift and he looked very adorable, and apparently Taylor Swift dates a lot to write songs about breaking up.
“That’s it. Give in to your hate.” – Emperor Katie Couric
Whereas Taylor Swift’s image and average lyrical content are so totally moving the sisterhood forward. I can’t wait to hear what noted feminist scholar Katy Perry has to say!
Cause baby you’re a firework
Come on show ‘em what your worth
Make ‘em go “Oh, Oh, Oh”
As you shoot across the sky-y-y
Baby you’re a firework
Come on let your colors burst
Make ‘em go “Oh, Oh, Oh”
You’re gonna leave ‘em fallin’ down-own-own
- Katy Perry, helper of women
“Ms. Fey? Hi, yeah, this is the ghost of Gloria Steinem. …Thanks! I’m a big fan of yours, too! Anyway, this is awkward, but, um, Taylor Swift has some stuff to teach you about feminism. …HAHA, I know, right? Hilarious. Anyway, just wanted to reiterate how great I think you are. Talk to you again soon!”
(Gloria Steinem is still alive, dude)
Is it true she’s Batman’s mother?
Stepmother.
how embarrassing…I would try to pretend I meant like a spirit or something, but really I was not thinking clearly because it’s Tuesday afternoon and I’m exhausted. There must be a special place in hell for women who misremember details about major feminist figures…
When Taylor Swift said this it killed her.
Don’t worry about it, Gloria Steinam is a terrible anti-trans jagweed anyway.
OUR MOVEMENT IS IMPERFECT AND COMPLEX! Or whatever.
More like Taylor Smooth Move.
Can somebody give me directions to this “special hell”? Because if Tina Fey and Amy Poehler are there, that’s where I want to go when I kick it.
Uh this was her answer when someone asked her if she considers herself a feminist: “I don’t really think about things as guys versus girls. I never have. I was raised by parents who brought me up to think if you work as hard as guys, you can go far in life.” So this is definitely a girl who thinks feminism = man-hating, right? But my best friends Amy and Tina are going to hell for not helping other women (other women = Taylor Swift only)?
I was going to say something smart but I gave myself a concussion from excessive facepalming.
don’t blame us men, we tried to keep you ladyfolk from learning to read, what with your delicate faces and concussion inducing palms, we knew something like this would happen
If you work as hard as guys?! IF YOU WORK AS HARD AS GUYS?!
My first reaction: sheer frustration. And then I thought, well, clearly she DOES think of things in terms of guys vs. girls, because apparently there’s this scale of hard work atop which the men sit, and we ladies must aspire to that if we want to be treated equally. And then I felt bad for her, because if that’s what her parents taught her–well. It sucks to grow up believing that something so damaging is right when it’s clearly wrong.
Yeah, I’m a guy, don’t try and work as hard as me. I’m really lazy. Maybe Taylor Swift was thinking of me when she said this, because of how lazy her songwriting is. HEY-OHHHHHHH, ya burnt, Taylor Swift.
See. That was an incredibly lazy joke. I am my own constant. Or something.
“Taylor Swiftboats Tina Fey and Amy Poehler”
Actually, in Michelangelo’s “The Last Judgment” in the Sistine Chapel, you can see in the bottom right corner both Amy Poehler and Tina Fey improvising for some demons and their spatula object work looks pretty grueling.
You know, heresay is inadmissable in court.
You said it Gabe.
That entire interview was amazing. Taylor Swift really is crazy.
First she was all ‘nuh, I’m not talking about my love life tee hee, what even is kissing?’ but then she had an APPROVED ‘SOURCE’ (aka her publicist or a sycophantic friend) IN THE SAME INTERVIEW answering all questions about her relationships and dissing her exes for her.
What a weirdo!
Her life in her head is an episode of the The Babysitters Club only not as mature.
Maybe it was Taylor Swift in a different hat, and she made the interviewers wait while she put the hat on and they had to sign a waiver saying they would attribute Hat-Swift to an “unnamed source”? I really hope so, at least.
Hahaha can you imagine if she really did that?
I’d love it if she really did and was like; “wait, I’ll just go get my friend to talk to you”, left the room then came out in a different hat wearing a mustache and introduced herself as “Maylor Drift” and then the interviewer had to just roll with it.
Even Jessie and Mallory are more mature! Well. Maybe not Mallory, actually.
Interesting that “help” equals “not criticizing me even mildly for any of my behavior.” I mean, even if you think the joke is shitty and kind of shaming, it’s still not the same as “not helping” her.
They’re just jealous.
I’d really love to know the original source of that quote… I imagine Katie Couric having a throw pillow with “‘There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help other women.’ – Anonymous” embroidered on it. It would look nice propped up on the other chair that she sits across from on the Katie show. Then when guests arrive, they could just hold it on their laps for the whole interview.
Madeline Albright
Katie Couric really gets on my nerves.
Where is this Special Place in Hell located in relation to the place for “People Who Waste Good Scotch?”
All us other ladies are jumping to side with Tina and Amy but it’s just because we’re jealous of how Taylor has cornered the professional celebrity bearding empire. Stop taking jobs from blandly pretty unfamous women you harlot!
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Gabe is asexual like Morrissey.
Update!!!! Amy Poehler responded in a totally amazing way! :
http://www.vulture.com/2013/03/amy-poehler-responds-to-swift-aw-i-feel-bad.html
That WAS a great response, Truck!
I knew it would be good!
“Ooooh Taylor, don’tchu feel crunchy…!”
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This lady makes way more than that just sitting there and you don’t see her bragging.
i just had a long conversation with an older male friend about how he believes the gender gap in theatre and media no longer exists (as in the ratio of male to female writers/directors is equal) and that women are represented realistically in entertainment. i feel like the fact that this conversation is even happening proves otherwise.
It isn’t equal. There are actual studies and statistics on it! (I know that you know this, but if you want gphard evidence to show your friend, I can find them for you.)
I don’t know what “gphard” is but it should be the word “hard.”
Wasn’t the joke really trying to help her? They were basically saying, “Taylor, take it easy on the casual dating. You may end up like Lindsay Lohan.”
“what was for sure a decent joke about you.”
Lets not go too far. At best it was ok, Fey and Poehler have come out with better.
Bloggers’ reaction to every comedian who says something against woman celeb OMG HE HATES WOMEN BURN HIM”
reaction of they happen to be tina fey… “Oh shut up take a joke!”
just goes to show what ya’ll get offended at is as much determined by how much you like the person who said it as much as what they actually said