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…is the person who tries to validate him. From the New York Post:
QUENTIN Tarantino’s new war movie, the strangely spelled “Inglourious Basterds,” is shaping up to be the blood-spattered antidote for anyone who’s depressed by the recent torrent of Holocaust movies – it’s one big slaughterfest in which hundreds of Nazis are gleefully executed in the most gruesome ways possible.
An insider said: “The Nazis really get their comeuppance. It’s a big change from all the downbeat Holocaust films over the holidays,” referring to “The Reader,” “Valkyrie,” “Defiance,” “Good,” “Adam Resurrected” and “The Boy in the Striped Pajamas.”
YEAH! I’m so tired of all these DOWNBEAT Holocaust movies. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I still want to see lots of Holocaust movies, just as long as they’re not DEPRESSING.
Ugh. This whole thing is getting unbearable. The reason that the Nazis were terrifying, and what makes genocide so horrific, is specifically the fact that they were human beings inflicting unimaginable destruction on other human beings. They weren’t murderous automatons unworthy of pity. So to turn them into dime-a-dozen ducks-in-a-row for a cartoonish carnival game of Hostel III shoot-em-up (or I guess, scalp-em-up?) is crude, tasteless, and stupid.
Sorry about taking you to Genocide for Dummies School for a second.
I’m not saying that the Holocaust is off limits, or that World War II is too sacred for a less-than-serious movie. We live in a world based on the freedom of expression. But just because something isn’t off limits doesn’t make it a good idea. And freedom of expression generally leads to really badly conceived expressions being freely expressed. Blogs, for example.
No one’s saying that you’re not allowed to make the “family friendly comedy” Hotel Rwanda For Dogs, but that doesn’t mean you should.
And if you still think this movie looks good, you and Harry Knowles should get married and have dumb babies with bad taste who write the most insane sentences on Earth.
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Here’s the thing, Gabe. If you want to constantly insult Tarantino and accuse people of racism, that’s fine, but at least show some restraint. Otherwise, you just sound stupid. Did he really do anything that bad to you, other than his potentially undeserved aura of superiority? You treat him like he molested you and every member of your family. Seriously, dude, chill the fuck out. If you want him to go away, don’t give him attention.
Oh, and to clarify, I’m not saying Gabe is accusing anyone of racism in this article, more referring to how much he does that in general.
To clarify further, you suck.
Except that this is a blog whose purpose is to a large extent to shit on stuff, and I love it for that.
Also, I really don’t understand why everyone is getting so up in arms over the Tarantino bashing when it really hasn’t even been that bad. He made one post saying that he thought the trailer looked horrible, and then he made a response post justifying his opinion because so many people threw a fit over it, and now he’s responding to an article that legitimizes something that he feels should not be legitimized.
Whooptee-fucking-do.
Really? I think the lack of restraint makes it funny. But whatever.
“No one’s saying that you’re not allowed to make the “family friendly comedy” Hotel Rwanda For Dogs, but that doesn’t mean you should.”
Gabe, please never stop doing what you do.
Yes, please never stop stealing jokes from The A.V. Club:
http://www.avclub.com/articles/sundanceify-your-movie-2009,22773/
It’s the New York Post man.
Are you expecting them to acknowledge the difference between what is allowed and what is right?
They shouldn’t be priting this shit, but that’s how the Post sells.
Is it just me or does a “gruesome slaughterfest” not seem like an appropriate antidote for depression?
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So thumbs down to the guy who made two of the best films of the 90′s and thumbs up to the latest Hayden Panatiere vehicle. Got it.
pretty sure it was a big thumbs down for the new hayden panatierre (fuck that last name!) movie
so because Sixth Sense was great, I should ignore how bad The Happening was?
You dont have to ignore anything. I just personally am waiting until I actually see the movie before I decide whether its crap or not. I’m not a Tarantino apologist, I just think his previous movies have afforded him enough leeway to not judge based on what some insider tells the nypost.
I’m boring myself by typing this. You guys win. I lose.
“You?ve seen images of a bloody girl running, of a Nazi with a swastika carved into his forehead and of Eli Roth as the Bear Jew swinging a Baseball Bat into a Nazi skull. This is, without a doubt, a perfect teaser. You don?t know who the girl is. You?ve no clue what Hitler is screaming ‘Nein’ about so red faced.”
–Harry Knowles, on “Inglourious Basterds” and being horrible at anything critical
Who is that bloody girl?! Why is that guy swinging the bat?! What’s with the Neinz, Hitler?!
Aside from Harry Knowles hate, which is admittedly the easiest thing to do ever, I have to say that I am not looking forward to Inglowreous Wattevr. While violence through art can be used as catharsis, and the Holocaust deserves a great deal of catharsis, I’m not sure that bringing it about through a plot that resurrects the really violent and racially-tinged tradition of scalping and places it into the context of WWII, with Nazis, is going to make anyone feel better about anything.
Tarantino’s traditional approach (Kill Bill, Jackie Brown) has been to transcend traditional genre material into the literary or–I guess for film–high cinema. That might be generous of me. This all just seems ridiculously cynical and garbagey, the trailer scored with the same sort of awful neo metal that traditionally accompanies video games.
Which is something–those video games. Is this some weird extension of all the WWII first person shooters, where you get to blow up mindless waves of Nazis, endlessly? Don’t they have computers with those things set up at the end of the Holocaust Museum?
i dunno. gabe seems cranky today.
Wait, shouldn’t the worst/dumbest person be Seth MacFarlane? That’s usually always the answer.
Excluding Glorious Bastards, Quentin Tarantino has made 6 movies. Not a single one was bad. And three of them were amazing. I’m not saying this movie won’t suck. I’m just saying maybe we should give him the benefit of the doubt.
This looks like an exploitation film inspired movie, similar to Death Proof. And that explains away the Brad Pitt and a narrating Sam Jackson, in my mind, given the sheer ridiculousness of it.
Bad Tarantino: his part of Four Rooms, Jackie Brown, Kill Bill 2, Death Proof.
Good Tarantino: Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks Tarantino is an idiot. Yeah he had a couple of great movies. That M.Night Shamalyan guy did 6th Sense, but now look at him. You can have some gems in you & the rest of what you produce can be complete & utter crap. And that is what I think is up with Tarantino. He is now making nothing but poop.
sorry…I commented before reading yours. Find it in your heart to forgive my unoriginality.
Don’t you guys see?! This is exactly what they want!! Ingurdilious Bisturds is destroying Videogum from the inside out!!!
You should really check out the nytimes article “Telling the Holocaust like It Wasn’t” — lots of relevant/interesting stuff there:
[Defiance] turns resistance to the Nazis into an action film, an emotionally glorious moment. As rousing as this vision of Jewish combat may be, it does raise a problem identified by the historian Raul Hilberg in his memoir ?The Politics of Memory.?
According to Mr. Hilberg, ?when relatively isolated or episodic acts of resistance are represented as typical, a basic characteristic of the German measures is obscured … the drastic actuality of a relentless killing of men, women and children is mentally transformed into a more familiar picture of a struggle ? however unequal ? between combatants.?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/movies/11heilbrunn.html
Gabe, you are the Anti-Harry. And that helps me sleep at night.
Gabe “So to turn them into dime-a-dozen ducks-in-a-row for a cartoonish carnival game…is crude, tasteless, and stupid.”
That’s exactly what all those classic type WWII movies are like. The same kinds of films Tarantino enjoys, and exactly the kind of film he’s trying to make. Those old John Wayne/Lee Marvin/Dirty Dozen WWII films never made any attempts to humanize the enemy, they just lined up and shot them down!
Quentin Tarantino… he’s page view gold Jerry, gold!!
I think anyone that wrote True Romance, Resevoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Natural Born Killers, Four Rooms, and Kill Bill doesn’t need anyone to “validate” him. I think you, Gabe, are a film Nazi.
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I also have never seen a Quentin Tarantino movie. So my comment is not about his films per se.
Generally I agree with Gabe. I think the whole concept is rather strange. What could possibly be more violent and shocking than what actually occurred during the 1930s and World War II? At least twelve years of unrelenting violence and cruelty pretty much outdoes anything a 2-hour film could dish up. And I’m not sure that 2 hours worth of movie violence would be a catharthis for anyone who experienced real violence. So I assume this project is only obliquely connected to the holocaust by virtue of some costumes.
I figure Tarantino may want this project to be seen as a critique of this film genre, or an experiment in taking this genre to the extreme until it becomes so ludicrous that it becomes entertaining. But if the films begs to be not taken seriously, we end up with nothing much at all, so what’s the point?
who the fuck are these people that have never seen a Tarantino movie??
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True Romance was written by Tarantino. Without directing it I don’t think it fully counts as his movie. Both Kill Bills are fantastic movies. You ppl don’t know nutting but drinkin hateraide.
If Tarantino wants to make a movie about draculas, ninjas, or professional hit men that inadvertently shoot their friends in the face while driving.. hey, cool, I can enjoy that, or at best sufficiently ignore it while I go on with my awesome life.
But this inglorious bastards thing is about WWII and that actually happened. I guess. At least attempt to be grounded in a place resembling planet earth so that I can buy into it and not imagine some coked-out man child sitting at his desk listening to shitty surf music and straining himself to write another script. Movies are about not knowing you’re watching a movie, unless you’re godard.
Everyone seems to be forgetting that this is a remake of an old 1970s Italian exploitation film, so if anyone is complaining that Tarantino is being unoriginal, you’re exactly right.
quentin tarantino can drink my puke.
I have to say I’m a bit offended by the idea that only “serious” WWII movies are a good idea. What”s wrong with Where Eagles Dare, or Dirty Dozen, or The Great Escape, Guns of the Navarone, etc.! There’s tons of less than serious WWII movies that are excellent ideas and not in any way in bad taste. C’mon quit being a grandma!
Having said that there is no reason to think Inglorious Basterds will be a movie worth watching. I’m skeptical of Tarantino these days. He’s gone too long without someone to tell him NO. He’s become a self indulgent cartoon. And Eli Roth = stupid bullshit that gets all over everything he comes near.
Everyone is forgetting it’s a remake becasue it’s not a remake. And if you think that Inglourious Basterds doesn’t have the potential to be better than “The Reader,” “Valkyrie,” “Defiance,” “Good,” “Adam Resurrected” and “The Boy in the Striped Pajamas” (all movies that the universe has agreed relatively suck) put together than you probably have nothing interesting to say about film. The nytimes ran a good article about how all those downbeat movies are horribly detrimental. Grow up, Gabe.
1. You’re judging an unfinished film by its trailer.
2. Tarantino has released many a bad trailer for his films (kill bill vol. 1 anyone?) that turned out to be fan-fucking-tastic good times.
3. Your hate feels a bit overboard here.
Also those “DOWNBEAT Holocaust movies” are nothing more than Oscar-bait anyway; made, packaged and sold to win awards only. So give Tarantino a break, at least he’s doesn’t give a fuck about pleasing those snobs.
I can’t/won’t get behind this movie. Some things in history should be left alone. Remembering the Holocaust with a violent movie (even when the violence is against Nazis) disgraces the people whose living conditions and deaths were beyond our comprehension. Bad taste doesn’t even begin to describe it. Gabe isn’t being crabby. He is outraged, rightfully so.
Additonally, if a grindhouse flick was erroneously made depicting slavery it would be just as bad. I’m just sayin’.
Sorry, but most things about WWII were “violent,” I think that saying violent movies about WWII are in bad taste is not categorically true. In fact I would say making a movie about WWII that didn’t address violence would be in bad taste. Brad Pitt’s accent is in bad taste. B.J. Novak, as a person, is in bad taste.
Actually a grindhouse-ish film about slavery WAS made, called Addio Zio Tom. It’s not really grindhouse, technically it’s in the Mondo genre, but the level of insane violence depicted onscreen is virtually incomparable. It might be unbearable, and maybe racist/maybe not, but it is incredibly not “bad” in terms of film.
Also, I don’t really think Gabe is outraged, and if he IS actually outraged over a movie called “Inglourious Basterds” then I think someone needs to realign their priorities. But I don’t think he is.
I too am absolutely outraged that they would make a mockery of World War II.
I mean, what’s next? Bugs Bunny doing schtick with Hitler? Donald Duck as a wacky Nazi?
Oh wait… nevermind… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZiRiIpZVF4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herr_Meets_Hare
Charlie Chaplin made the best wacky Hitler ever in the Great Dictator.
I would totally go see Hotel Rwanda For Dogs.
There’s a difference between “Hey I listened to snippets from the new Kevin Federline-Album; They didn’t sound good, therefore I think the album’s gonna tank” and “Hey I listened to snippets from the new Yo La Tengo Album; They didn’t sound good, therefore I think the album’s gonna tank”
I wanna see some Nazis get killed. They were fucking pricks, and I would receive great satisfaction if I got to see a lot of them die.
Are you saying you don’t want to see Nazis get the fucking brutal killing they deserve?
Are you a Nazi?
Normally it’s Jews getting killed in movies, this time they fight back!
Quentin Tarantino is good. He needs to grow a chop beard.
Quentin Tarantino is good. He needs to grow a chop beard.
I don’t get what your deal is with Tarantino. The movies he makes are supposed to be ridiculous and horrible in a way, because he is parodying exploitation movies. Look up how many nazi-ploitation movies have been made, and you’ll see where Tarantino’s mind-set is.
this blog fucking sucks haha
Dear Videogum,
You’re doing it wrong.
Carl.
I never cared for Tarantino much nor have I enjoyed any of his movies that I saw… to a great extent.
But essentially saying you cannot treat Nazis like cardboard villains to be knocked down by our heroes is saying the Dirty Dozen is a bad movie.
You got something bad to say about Lee Marvin? Say it to his face.
Not particularly a fan of the man himself, I can’t deny that I love his movies. This, however is the first of his films that, after seeing the preview, I thought, “Wow! That looks f*ing stupid!” Add insults in regard to Tarnintino’s ego, Brad Pitt, etc., etc. I will however, give it the benefit of the doubt and see it.
everytime i’ve seen a qt movie, i feel as though he’s just jacking it all over my face for 2.5+ hours. what a crazy self absorbed douche.
I saw the movie and it was entertaining. Focusing on a segment of what was happening and a character study of sorts. I enjoyed. Give Q a chance to rebuild. Kill Bill and Kill Bill 2 – great – BUT that seemed like a lazy day in the hammock – give me something between Kill Bill and the Grindhouse