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It seems almost ridiculous to even talk about what goes on at these Republican debates anymore, like going on and on about how you keep having the same nightmare to your friends who were at first concerned and are now just sick of hearing about it because first of all it scares and depresses them and second of all they GET IT, Jesus, just shut up about your GD nightmare already. Except it’s not that, and it’s instead real people who want to be president and real people who want to vote for them applauding the execution of 234 people, cheering on the death of those without health insurance, and now booing a gay soldier in Iraq. NEAT!
At the Republican debate last night, a clip was shown of soldier Steven Hill asking if the the presidential hopefuls intended to destroy the progress made for gay and lesbian soldiers with the repeal of the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy. This was met first by boos from the audience, and then by Rick Santorum saying, basically, “Oh, yeah. Definitely.” Love these guys!
Oh, Jesus. What we’re dealing with here, with the booing, is obviously just a few nightmare people. And it’s true that they are fucking nightmares, and they shouldn’t be forgotten about or talked about in any gentler terms. But what is more upsetting than the few fucking nightmares booing a soldier in active duty in Iraq for being homosexual, because you’re OF COURSE going to have that, you’re at a debate for godssake, what do you expect them to do NOT boo a soldier in active duty in Iraq for being homosexual?, is Rick Santorum’s INSANE FUCKING NIGHTMARE RESPONSE.
Forgetting the fact that he didn’t respond to the boos in any way, because he is a homophobic coward, his entire answer is insane nonsense. The repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell “recognize[s] a group of people and give[s] them a special privilege”? The repeal of DADT, if anything, takes AWAY any recognition. It allows soldiers to exist equally, none of them either recognized or unrecognized. And what special privilege are we talking about, exactly? The special privilege to be a disgusting homosexual and NOT have to hide it? You fucking asshole? Rather than the not special not privilege of being a heterosexual and being able to simply BE THAT and not get discharged? Is the special privilege that they get to have sex with people of the same gender and if they get to have sex with people of the same gender without repercussion we should ALL be able to have sex with people of the same gender without repercussion, Rick Santorum? I don’t know how to respond to your garbage because IT MAKES NO SENSE.
And then: The repeal of DADT injects social policy into the military. Allowing people to be homosexual without repercussion in 2011 should not be considered social policy. If anything, having a policy that specifically prohibits an openly homosexual person from serving in the military seems like a social experiment that has already been proven incorrect (let alone UNCONSTITUTIONAL). And when he specifies that the military is “all volunteer,” implying that entering the military as a homosexual you should be ready to give up that part of your identity and if you are not you should stay out? Are you fucking kidding me? While we’re in the middle of 4500 wars, implying that ANYONE should stay out? BUT YOU LOVE WARS! You can’t love wars and then also tell people to stay out of getting killed in them, Senator. Even if you believe the fact that they prefer people of the same gender is going to distract everyone from doing fucking anything.
Honestly, it’s difficult to talk about this. It seems so basic. DADT has been declared unconstitutional. It is crazy to me that the entire audience is applauding the idea of reinstating a policy that has been declared unconstitutional. What do you even say? The most upsetting thing in his response is how he implies that DADT discriminated against sexuality in general. It did not. It specifically prohibited the openly gay from serving in the military, and the closeted gay from coming out. “Leave it alone and keep it to yourself, whether you’re heterosexual or homosexual” is nonsense. Only one half had to leave it alone and keep it to themselves. It was declared unconstitutional and we should be ashamed that it was ever in place. This is easy, and this is not open for debate.
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Privilege? PRIVILEGE?! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!
What else can you expect from a frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter?
well played good sir, i laughed out loud at my desk and got strange looks from my coworkers
And the semen. Don’t forget the semen.
Is Kidding Me your gay boyfriend?
Yes, the privilege to be drafted. The privilege to go fight for their homophobic asses and risk death.
Wait, nobody said anything about the draft! Even women haven’t received THAT privilege. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves!
Unfair, Kelly. The audience was clearly shouting “BOOO comfortable with you are BOOOO-cause it gets BOOOO-tter.”
Hmm, I heard BOOOO-urns.
Bruce!
Kelly, not Gabe. Booooooooooooooooooooo.
Yikes, you’re right. Corrected.
Wait! Corrected? How do you have comment editing powers?!
As a former guest blogger for Videogum, I have the ability to edit my comments.
Wow. Downvotes? Those are some people not ashamed of their petty jealousy.
Folks, don’t downvote wert.
Werttrew, I’m emailing you 439 typos I’ve made this week, if you could take care of them for me KTHANXBYE.
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“I don’t know what Pride And Prejudice And Zombies is.” -Kelly
“Lol CLASSIC Kelly!” -Monsters
I think you spelled Kelly wrong.
“I was saying Booo-cause”
You forgot to rest your case.
I find it ironic how you can be against a policy that prohibits people from serving in the military based on their sexual preference, while at the same time promoting your own agenda of prohibiting people from serving in the government based on the fact that they’re total dickwads.
Don’t worry, dickwads. It gets better.
This made me feel a tiny bit better:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/99689-poll-78-percent-favor-repealing-dont-ask-dont-tell
It’s a poll from over a year ago saying that 78% of Americans support the repeal of DADT. So I guess only 20ish% of our country is complete and utter garbage?
let’s say 15ish%, I’m sure 25ish% of the people not supporting it are just doing it for the lulz
I have quite literally spent the last two days vomiting, trying to bribe the centipedes in my apartment to buy me drugs, and praying for death. And I still had a better time of it than anyone watching this codswallop. Also now I wish I had gone, if for no other reason that puking on them would be worth the price of bail and the shame I would bring upon my family.
What are you bribing the centipedes with? Cheetos are not doing the trick. I’m getting nothing but shwag.
I tried actual money, but that just made them scurry around on their creepy creepy legs.
That’s what happened to me too! Stupid bugs. They just creepy scurry for everything. Them and their dirty shwag.
Million upvotes for use of “codswallop” (actually only one, but I can pretend)
LBT, if you wanted those people to buy you stuff, you should have asked them BEFORE you human centipeded them.
Oh, so you live in Central FL? I used to and I have to say, I’m not sure that the people booing the gay soldier weren’t in fact gay themselves and just booing what he was wearing or his poor choice of career.
(What I’m trying to say is that Orlando is so gay friendly that I was kind of surprised that anybody in that town, even Republicans, could be so rude. Seriously, I half expected to hear somebody else shout “Oh, be nice!” during Santorum’s response.
You ever read about something and start to feel your whole mood quickly slide into sadness? That’s what happened just now. So many horrible people so willing to throw everyone else in the garbage …
This is your fucking america
UGH UGH UGH UGH UGHHHHH UGHHHHHHH UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK HERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
GOD DAMN IT. GOD DAMN IT! I HATE THIS! People like Ann Coulter make me pray for the apocalypse.
My rage fucked up my formatting! God damn it!
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Counterpoint:
Is there room in this already 100+-comment thread about how Ann Coulter’s looks are completely beside the point (that point being that she’s a nightmare psycho garbage beast from hell) and that “don’t judge people based on their appearances” also applies to the bad guys? No? OK then.
FT, I have this horrible image of you being like the guy in the movie who follows what looks like a pretty girl off to some abandoned alley or basement and then she turns around but she has a skull face or something? And then she eats you or possesses you or I don’t know what? I feel like this is a thing that happens in a lot of movies, but I can’t think of any concrete examples. Anyway, Ann Coulter is a ravenous demon nightmare creature is what I’m saying, and your sex drive seems to be clouding your judgement so be careful. There. Good comment.
My wife has been out of town for three weeks. She comes back tomorrow. And also,an Anne Coulter horror movie seems likely, but it would probably involve some poor guy thinking he’s getting lucky and then getting frostbite on his penis.
Here, huckabeast. Here’s a concrete example:
By the way, when searching for this movie, I couldn’t remember the title, so I tried to search for Donald Sutherland, only I couldn’t remember his name either, and kept wanting to Google search Frank Lloyd Wrong.
She looks like this.
rootmarm, I accidentally downvoted you when I meant to upvote you. Sorry! The arrows were all tucked underneath the column border and clicking things with a mouse is hard!
Nope. No. You fucking dick. You fucking asshole dick.
Dude, relax, Gabe isn’t THAT bad!
“Shut the fuck up, facetaco!” – Kelly
This is actually one of the few times I didn’t use the wrong name on purpose. I can almost always tell the difference between the two without checking the byline, but that’s because Kelly isn’t generally this angry. I think Gabe is starting to be a bad influence.
Next thing we know, Kelly’s going to be yelling at the petting zoo. Leave the petting zoo alone, Kelly! They’re just dumb animals! They don’t even know what a gay soldier is!
Just because they’re cute doesn’t mean they’re dumb. My dog has just created a pillow out of a series of scarves so he can sleep in a sunbeam more comfortably. And he’s the cutest dog on the planet (sorry Birdie, but it’s true). And he’s gay. And he smiles. And he tries to speak English, but all he can really say is “MOWM” when he’s really upset or excited because we’re going for a walk and I’m not putting my shoes on fast enough.
Also: this thread needs more lab-beagle mixes.
I know, right?! My mind cannot comprehend this, in all seriousness. His wafer-thin justification for being a dick, juxtaposed against the people cheering him (so much that he has to talk louder)… they do not make… sense.
Bah, if you need me, I’ll be getting a rum ham and eating/drinking away my frustration.
Is that a real thing? If not, I will devote all of my resources to making it real.
Holy crap, how good would a rum ham be right now?
New Friday goal: Get rip-shit on ham.
Do we have the technology to share booze food in chat? If not, can someone get on that? I’m looking at you, Inspector Spacetime
I’ve never heard the term “rip-shit” before but now I have and I love it and I love you too.
Oh, MIC, I love you, too. But you actually have one Sir Dr. Frank Reynolds to thank for “rip-shit.”
MIM, my bad. sigh.
“Did you just call me Rum Ham?”
You know how straight soldiers have always been able to talk about their loved ones back home without getting fired? Well now gay soldiers can, too. Some people think that’s a bad thing, and I’m at a complete loss to understand how anyone could be so small and petty and hateful.
Also – nice post, Kelly. This must have really lit a fire under your ass.
None of the candidates even thanked this man for serving, because I guess his orientation negates everything else about him, including the fact that he puts himself in danger for them?
That’s the thing that makes that whole demographic of dickweeds the worst, especially considering that everyone in the military are volunteers.
“I definitely want a government big enough to invade your sex life and use your life to advance our country’s whatever militarily, but TO HELL if I want to grant you the right to marry each other or give you public health care because what are we, socialist big government communists?! NOBAMA!” -These dickweeds
Guys, this will all be worth it when in a couple of years, Santorum gets caught cruising a men’s bathroom in a truck stop outside of Harrisburg.
I have a fairly decent gaydar and whenever Rick Santorum speaks red lights go off on it and flags wave from its sides.
“Together, we will bring America back to its Glory Holes…DAYS! Glory Days! I meant, Glory Days.” –Rick Santorum
THANKS FOR RUINING GLORY HOLES
Everyone should Google “Santorum”……no really you HAVE TO google Santorum.
For every time Santorun says something crazy bigoted and pisses me off, I google his name 10 times. I suggest everyone do the same, it’s sort of therapeutic.
Go rewatch that movie Pandorum, but the whole time, imagine that it is an allegory for Rick Santorum. It is wildly prophetic. So many parallels.
Pandorum: a psychological condition brought on by extended periods spent in deep-space travel. Symptoms include irrational paranoia and vivid hallucinations.
Santorum: a psychological condition brought on by extended periods spent in the ideological equivalent of deep, deep outer fucking space. Symptoms include super irrational paranoia and gay-themed hallucinations
What is everyone cheering about when he just starts spouting off a list of made-up words that, as far as I can tell, have no bearing whatsoever on reality? I’M SERIOUS! Everyone just starts cheering and applauding and he might as well be reading the back of a cereal box for all the sense it makes! I’M SO CONFUSED! I’M ANGRY AND CONFUSED!
It’s probably an inside joke. Rick Santorum’s constituency is the Videogum of politics.
Hahaha, nobody actually gives a shit what you say or think, Rick Santorum.
I’m so glad you’re going to die in complete obscurity and your only legacy will be that nobody can google your disgusting, hate-ridden name.
Fuck you and every single one of you people. You are a dying breed, and I can’t wait to dance on your fucking graves.
The end.
What do you mean, YOU PEOPLE?
Hateful dickheads?
As a gay man this really scares me. The mob mentality is getting a bit out of hand with the GOP. I know my gay brothers and sisters have it worse in Iran as Ahmadinejad doesn’t even believe they exist, but we are getting dangerously close to this school of thought. Santorum should apologize to this soldier and to all LGBT Americans. Can you imagine if democrats booed a soldier?
Exactly my thoughts Jim. The very first words out of anyone’s mouth to that soldier should be a simple “thank you”, and the second words should not be any of the words Santorum said.
Didn’t some jackass have a thing this week or last week about how Obama hates all soldiers? I honestly don’t remember anymore because I’m not allowed to read about Republicans or Tea Party types as it puts me in this rage spiral that I can’t get out of for DAYS AND DAYS.
What’s that? Another puppy pic?
Your puppy is really cute and I want to snuggle it.
where are they getting these audience members? Is it like 40% people who think they’re on Jerry Springer and 60% people trucked in via time machine from the 1600′s?
these are the types of days why i come here everyday and read every comment
I’m pretty sure at the end there he’s saying that Don’t Ask Don’t Tell goes both ways. Anyone who acknowledges the existence of sex is out. WORLD PEACE
“I call my plan a Reverse Lysistrata.”
I know that being on rational/sane/human side of these issues means that I should not fight fire with fire, and that I should not spread hate as they do… but it’s getting to the point where I’m just completely offended and horrified about 1000 times a day and OH MY FUCKING GOD I HATE THESE PEOPLE. SOOOO MUCH! FLAMES… ON THE SIDE OF MY FACE.
AAAAACKKKKK.
Patriotism, ur doing it wrong.
let’s get down to the very root of it: what kind of person loudly heckles a presidential debate?
even if i agree with your opinion or sentiments [for the record, i don't. at all. yuck] you are still a huge fucking asshole who should not be allowed in public.
this is what the GOP refers to as its “base.”
As upsetting as this is, imagine how upset we’ll be when the 2012 election ends up being really close.
I haven’t heard audience reaction this wrong since Whitney.
ZING!
How many times is this going to happen before someone, anyone (candidate, moderator, a camera man for fucks sake) actually says something to these booing morons.
Amen!
I’m a bit miffed that NOT ONE gay soldier has thanked me for the privilege of getting shot at in my name. I’m waaaaaaaiiiiiiting …
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Great, glad to have this viewpoint represented. Sweet comparison to ObamaCare! Very relevant. So yes, not at all surprised by this being here and totally happy to see it has finally arrived. No thread can do without this perspective! Just wouldn’t seem right. All of the upvotes, birthday cake for everyone, etc into infinity and beyond. #Sarcasm
For the record, of course sexuality has nothing to do with serving in the military. That’s why the policy was repealed. It was a horrific bit of homophobic distinction that silenced and shamed those who should have been allowed to step up to the plate without reservation and offer up their lives in the name of service. DADT was and will forever be a shameful stain on an already muddy American history.
your argument makes no sense. if sexual orientation doesn’t matter, then why were nearly 15,000 soldiers discharged because of it?
classroom argument: how comfortable would you feel if, say, you were gay in a classroom ["huh?!" - me]…no, you might not feel the impulse to stand up and shout that you are, but how comfortable would you feel if that if a teacher happened to find out you were, he/she KICKED YOU OUT of class?
getting rid of DADT did JUST what you’ve said – it took sexual preference out of the discussion. there are no straight soldiers and gay soldiers, there are just soldiers.
and, i just want to say that I feel sorry for whatever world you live in, where a person fighting for their basic human rights is derogatorily considered “being all activist.”
i for one am proud that these people are brave enough to put their lives on the line in the name of basic freedoms they aren’t even getting because of ignorant people like Rick Santorum. and it’s just damn nice to see that they no longer have to hide part of themselves in order to do it.
There’s a DADT policy in classrooms now?
Only at Liberty and Bob Jones Universities
Ugh, such a Santorumy thing to say.
sloppy, shitty, [logically] slippery…and all over the place.
“It’s not typically something people just announce randomly.”
This is the part of the argument I always find ridiculous. How could somebody not be conscious of how absolutely normal it is for straight adults to talk about boyfriends and girlfriends, spouses, who is hot and who is not, and sex in general? Straight people “announce” their heterosexuality almost constantly – they just don’t notice it because it’s sooooo normal. Ah-doy.
I agree with Anthony on one point: Santorum isn’t homophobic, ie scared of homosexuals. He’s just a straight-up bigot; he HATES homosexuals. It’s important to make that distinction. Thanks, Tony! (Can I call you Tony?)
See but gay people were being discharged even if they weren’t standing up and announcing it. They were being found out, even if they weren’t talking about it, by their facebook pages, and “out-ed” publicly and shamefully discharged. It was used as a tool of oppression, not as a way to keep soldiers minds off of sex, and free of distractions or whatever. Not every gay person is as flamboyant as your little mind thinks they are. Most are just regular people, who maybe want to talk about their loved ones back home once in a while.
My only regret is that it’s Friday so it’s unlikely this will make it to lowest comment.
Relationships and sex are discussed in everyday life, and it’s discussed in the military because they’re human beings who are placed into incredibly stressful situations and it’s something to talk about that isn’t completely shitty. You’re not going to stop it. Thus if heterosexuals are talking about it, then homosexuals deserve the same right to talk about a significant other.
“He’s right – it’s a volunteer organization – so if you can’t go in without being all activist and shoving your preference down people’s throats, then don’t do it.”
The fact that you think this is something that happens tells me that you have no fucking idea what you’re talking about and have completely ignorant views of gay people.
Things you cannot be on Videogum: Racist, Anti-Gay, Anti-The Wire.
And when are we going to do something about all these activists parading their private sex lives with their profile pictures flaunting their different-sex partnerships for all to see? KEEP IT IN THE BEDROOM PEOPLE IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT PREFERENCE YOU HAVE.
Ever notice its never it’s always a Facebook connect person posting this type of nonsense? WEIRD.
I like how his photo shows him cheek to cheek with a cute girl. Ha! Tony, why are you “shoving your sexuality down our throats” with this photo? Well, srsly, let me ask: Why should someone be able to post this photo and still be in the army (I’m assuming you think that) but they shouldn’t be able to post this photo replacing the cute chick with a cute guy? Look, maybe the two-guys version makes you uncomfortable — Sure. Fine. Why uncomfortable? I don’t know exactly… but maybe “phobia” is not completely the wrong word…
I mean, I’m not saying you’d be all shrieks and petticoats hoisted in the air and leaping on a chair to get away from it in terror. I’m just saying you might be uncomfortable with something you’re not used to seeing. But the reason you’re not used to seeing it is that it has been effectively banned from society until semi-recently. And that’s not exactly fair to guys who want to take their picture cheek to cheek with a guy they dig, the way you do with the girl you dig. See? That’s all. That’s the whole issue. Nothing more or less. Anyway, I hope you came back to read the replies after you posted.
btw you guys, no homo.
“I’m not saying you’d be all shrieks and petticoats hoisted in the air and leaping on a chair to get away from it in terror.”
The world would be a better place were that how bigots reacted.
Yeah… Can we get rid of it? It’s at least a new reason I have to hate facebook.
Does anyone else ever click on their Facebook profile to see if they know other bigots you know? I assume they all hang out together on their lawn chairs, waving tiny American flags.
Nope! Sorry, try again!
I’m convinced.
You make a great argument in favor of the repeal of don’t ask don’t tell. It must be weird to have an opposite brain.
Anthony Mosesso…and that comment is why you are only an xray repair tech.
THIS GUY IN THE ARMY
Soldier: Hey man, where you from?
Mosesso: Florida.
Soldier: Oh, what a coincidence, my wife and I went there on our honeym–
Mosesso: WHOA THERE. Did I ask who you’re sleeping with? I really don’t need to know about your sex life, thanks.
—–
Commanding Officer: It’s with great sadness that I have to inform you that Private Smith has died of injuries sustained from an IED explosion. His wife and infant daughter–
Mosesso: HEY NOW! TMI, mister! What does his sex life have to do with anything? If he wanted to flaunt it so badly, why not just do porn?
Commanding Officer: That’s really inappropriate. My wife happens to be the base psychologist, why don’t you–
Mosesso: YOU TOO??? Sorry, I thought I was in Iraq, not some pervert sex club? Eww, is that a wedding ring? Why do you people constantly have to shove your sexuality down everyone’s throats? I’m going to join the Navy.
annnnnddddd…scene.
this. this. a thousand times this!
I wish I could copy paste this onto every page of the internet.
awe, i missed it. shucks.
I’m a little OCD and I just noticed there are exactly 100 comments in this thread, so please, no one else post to this thread so we can keep it at that exact number, OK? Thanks.
Eeeesh, I JUST REALIZED MY POST I JUST DID MADE IT 101 AND IT RUINED EVERYTHING!!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Does this mean we have to get to 1000 now? What will make capt clown not have to flick the lightswitch 34 times?
And THAT is the difference between “a little OCD” and “actually OCD.”
I want to point out that Santorum is not currently a Senator. This is important. It is important that Santorum not be a Senator.
PS. Whatever protocol we have for calling a former President ‘President’ until they die, we should not extend that to Congress which, having a high number, are way more likely to have pieces of insane shit like Santorum on the rolls that we should agree to forget was ever in power.