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Congratulations to the NUMBER ONE MOVIE IN AMERICA, The Sorcerer’s Apprentice. Personally, I’m not even sure if I’m going to be able to figure out WHAT I thought of it until I see it a few more times. It’s like peeling away the layers of an ensorceled onion! And, obviously, I’ve already pre-ordered the DVD on Amazon. Up until now, I’ve avoided buying a Blu Ray DVD player, but I’m finally ready to take the plunge. Can you imagine feeling the rush in the comfort of your own home when Nicolas Cage is like, “Plasma ball.” WHOA. And remember the part with the dragon? That I definitely saw in the movie and am not just referencing because the Sorcerer’s Apprentice trailer has shown before every single movie this summer? Wasn’t that a cool part?
“I’m Jerry Bruckheimer.”
–Jerry Bruckheimer
I’m sure this thread is going to explode into a pretty intense debate. People are very PASSIONATE about how they feel about this movie. Let’s try and remember that we are all here for the same thing: to talk about pop culture and have a good time. Should we really let the biggest, funnest, best, most important movie of the year get in the way of that? Just kidding. Rip each other to pieces!
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But what about that spinning top?
This blog is only a dream blog. Do you have your totem? It’s a small pewter statue of Topher Grace. Right now we’re all asleep, in reality we’re all extras on the set of Ghost Rider.
I can’t believe Carrie stayed with Mr. Big after all!!! Talk about a “dream” come true!!!
Nic Cage is laughing all the way to the bank!
While at the bank, Nic Cage will sign several Deeds in Lieu of Foreclosure for his castles while softly sobbing into the fur-lined coat that he sleeps in at night.
He might even go visit his pyramid sarcophagus.
He’s gotta conjure up some cake first
Hopefully all the way to the TomatoBank.
No! I thought no one was going to use that joke!
The movie was okay, but to be honest, all that airbending just looked like fancy farting to me.
Just hangin”
This photo is actually of those two walking around off-set. Nic Cage thought he could get a better feel for his character if he tried to live and dress like a REAL sorcerer while filming.
This, of course, was taken before he got dressed up.
Oh wait, I get it now. Or, do I? :-/
Creepy trench dude, Baruchel only looks underage.
Jason Segal as nerd-villain Vector was my favorite. And Gru’s little yellow Minions? Adorable!
Of course, I was pretty sure that the oldest orphan would try and make some iCarly joke in there somewhere. And then she didn’t! Kuhdooz, director of that movie!
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0781981/
Damn it! Segel. Thanks for the correction, laughcamp.
Well, I’ve been hearing great things about Inception, so I was gonna see that tonight, but I guess I’ll see this instead so I can take part in this thread
if you could do us all a favor and keep posts relevant to the thread, we’d all appreciate it.
I would watch a sequel to Inception that’s just the Japanese guy sitting in that tea house, eating soup and growing older.
I would watch a sequel that’s just an additional 10 seconds after the movie ends, because COME ON.
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no one’s biting, Steve.
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OOF!
I’ve never come across someone so set on being a villain amongst otherwise good people. You, sir, are an abomination, and what was, for some time, playful antagoniziation has now fully evolved into pure evil. To the health of this blogscape, you are an open wound salting itself.
I’m not trying to be a villain. I legitimately went to see the movie that we all agreed to go see because I value your friendship. I legitimately didn’t like the movie and have said so. Sorry that blows your mind and causes your entire world to come crashing down all around you.
I enjoyed Incpetion. And I disagree with Steve Winwood’s opinion of it. Do I:
A) Try to have an actual discussion on the film with him to determine why he feels this way about it
B) Call him an abomination and pure evil
My world would have come crashing down around me if Steve Winwood had *liked* the movie.
Okay, yes, mine is an overreaction by all interpretations. However, I will say that you have a unique tendency to push the buttons of all who dwell here. And furthermore, you do not provide solid backing for your criticisms of the film.
I would pay standard price for that 10 second film. I would pay extra to see it in 3D, if necessary. In fact, if we can get together similarly annoyed Inception-ers, we can kidnap Chris Nolan and force him to make an alternative ending that doesn’t fuck our collective cortexes like a bitch.
Capu, does it even matter? The 2.5 hours of hollow, empty contrived non-story would change significantly one way or the other depending on that ending? I don’t think it would.
Steve, can you please point me to where you thought the story was empty or contrived? I might be able to understand if your complaint was that the relationship with Mal felt “hollow,” although I disagree, but to say the story was empty or uninteresting is completely ridiculous.
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“Not enough pretty girls.” –Steve Winwood
I’m pretty sure you don’t know what “contrived” means. It’s a movie about people entering each other’s dreams.
OK, I think I might actually be in some kind of dream-state at this point because here I am upvoting Steve’s comments because I, too, did not love Inception. I need a top to spin.
I enjoyed the movie, but I actually have to agree with you on the ending “twist” (not a twist) doesn’t really change anything in the movie. It’s disappointingly meaningless.
Is this the Mel Gibson Wiretapping Enthusiasts blog? I am looking for more wiretapped Mel Gibson telephone conversations.
I heard that he’s still got it. Apparently.
The simple fact is that if Dicaprio had gone to Christopher Nolan and said “I want to play a magician. You know, I want to play like a sorcerer,” and had Miles Davis and Walt Disney as “surrealist fathers (of sorts)” then he would be sitting top of the pops this week.
Feel free to take down this comment if it is too controversial, but man, Mickey Mouse has changed. I wonder if he’s had some work done.
“I’ve been in two Oscar-winning movies. How’d I get stuck playing Mickey Mouse with this asshole?” — Jay Baruchel
According to most of the reviews I’ve read, I’d say: the nasal voice.
Mal was not dead.
Wait wait wait. Expand on this!
She was an actress starring in a movie that was a work of fiction?
Well that’s a relief!
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Wait, you paid for a “friend”? Did you have a DATE, Steve Winwood??
HA ha, you didn’t like a movie.
I walked out thinking maybe it was a threeski but overnight it rotted down to a 2.5ski
“I walked out thinking maybe it was a threeski but overnight it rotted down to a 2.5ski.” –Steve Winwood to his urologist.
This aint the Movie Club thread, Steve. This is an open thread to discuss what is clearly your choice for Film Of The Week (Month? Year?), Nicolas Bruckheimer’s The Magic Man.
If the movie club did get changed to this I will be very angry cause this is the only time i’ve seen the right movie on the right weekend to participate. Also, i’ve been planning my comment since yesterday afternoon. (No, shut up! I totally have friends!)
“cupcake snake” and I are in the same boat, or at least, we hold the same position in this regard
so….what are we supposed to be discussing? That new Pete Rose documentary? Well let me tell ya, it’s gonna be his biggest hit since 4192. (gross)
One of my Facebook friends posted that she had a good time at the drive-in watching Toy Story 3 and “THE MAGICIAN’S ASSISTANT”.
So apparently Jerry Bruckheimer needs to come up with more memorable titles.
I want to upvote this. Forever.
Apparently you need to come up with some better facebook friends, friend.
Yeesh — sounds like someone has a serious case of the Mondays.
I heard the original title was “The Philosopher’s Apprentice.”
I thought it was “The Alchemist’s Secretary who gives him weird looks from across the room and who’s sexual advances are completely unwarranted and unwanted….but C’MON! Look at dat ass!”
Comments Overheard In Reaction to the Trailers Before “Inception.”
Piranha 3D: (Girl in my row, five seats away) “That’s going to make soooo much money.”
Charlie St. Cloud: (Girl behind me, softly) “Gay.”
The Town: (Same girl behind me, when Ben Affleck takes mask off) “Gasp!”
Due Date: (Someone, upon seeing Jamie Foxx) “Oh man, this is buttered. I said no butter. No butter!”
I have to admit, I watched the trailer for The Town while laying in my bed, and I totally gasped over dramatically when Ben Affleck takes off that mask!
I laughed very hard at the trailer for Charlie St. Cloud throughout, especially at the title, but especially at the whole “playing catch with the ghost of my little brother in the woods.” I’m convinced that movie was made just so I could see the trailer.
Don’t forget the part where some guy shouts “But nobody can survive in those waters!”
Too much The Best for one trailer.
That line – “every night…I play catch…with my dead brother”…yikes. Because that is something a crazy lunatic says, and I don’t think that’s what this movie’s going for at all.
MY Inception did not play this wonderful-sounding trailer. Can anyone on the internet direct me to a link of this future masterpiece?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0kPrDpN1zQ
SPOILER ALERT: The trailer gives away the entire movie.
You neglected to mention that it would also ruin The National for me forever.
whenever the younger brother tells the older one to make pizza, I always mishear the second part so I think he’s going to say “bitches love pizza.” In which case I would love this movie if only for that. but since he doesn’t, (all together now) UGH.
Also, “I like to have a good cry at the nail salon” is one of my favourite movie lines EVER.
How can you play catch when there’s no one else there? He’s really playing “throw”.
Man, I wanted to cry every time there were flashbacks showing the magician and his dead wife doing magic tricks in happier days, but then that twist came along and she was so crazy!!!
Wait, I lost track of which DiCaprio movie I’m referencing
(Real talk: I fucking loved Inception! It violated my brain, and I liked it)
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“Wah.” – Steve Winwood’s Rotten Tomatoes “Inception” quote.
Steve I agree with you that The Usual Suspects is wayyy overrated but Diabolique– the original, at least– is so good!
The original Diabolique? Sure. The 90s remake with Kathy Bates finally giving in and lighting up another cigarette at the end (SPOILER!) after the psyche is revealed? UGH!!!! Hate empty hollow modern movie shit
I have to agree with you. I didn’t dislike the movie–it was a fine way to spend an evening–but I didn’t think it was great or a movie that I will ever want to watch again. I also saw the Last Airbender this past week and they pretty much were equal. Great special effects, ehhh stories. The Last Airbender was marred by terrible acting; Inception’s acting was good. But other wise they were mostly just visually appealing, but ultimately empty movies (for me). (Also, all of the cool visuals I’d already seen in the previews, which seems like a rip off).
I didn’t get bored until the end–the climax was far too climaxy. Too much mind-shooting. It would seem that in a movies where you have characters who are going inot and out of dreams, the dreams should be stranger and should get stranger the deeper you go. But the deepest dream was just a fort with shooting a snowmobiles, or basically an episode of G.I. Joe.
In the end, I felt like there was nothing at stake and there was nothing for me to learn from the movie. I don’t want to crap on anyone else who loved it–I did enjoy it–but I had higher hopes.
This “Mans” fella is my new best friend
Will you buy me a ticket to a movie that neither of us will like? Maybe then after that we can eat at Chili’s.
I was just psyched that Nicholas Cage never yelled at Baruchel. I was expecting him to yell something like “you’re not ready for this mission, you’ve compromised our efforts, you’re not the architect I’m looking for,” etc. Even when Baruchel climbed into Cage’s dream elevator he didn’t yell! Kahdooz to the director.
i didn’t see it. here is a cat wearing a wizard outfit.
i don’t know if that top is still spinning, but I sure am. tee hee.
My thoughts on Inception: I know most actors would want the Leo role with the gravitas and all, but JGL had the coolest scenes of the movie. Also many places are saying the top starts to wobble, thereby signifying it was in fact reality at the end. Thoughts?
My thoughts on Sorcerer’s Apprentice: We were watching Undeclared before we left and Jay was so little! Remember the one with Samm Levine and the frat? etc.
I read an interview today with the guy who played the chemist and he said two things about the top: 1) He clearly hears a wobble as the screen cuts to black. And 2) it’s less important what the top does than it is that Cobb walks away from it without registering what it does. It signifies that he’s free of the obsession.
see i thought that the fact that he didnt give a shit about the top clearly meant that the idea of seeing his children in front of him far outweighs the questioning of whats real and whats fake, which can be interpreted as being free of his obsession, but i thought it was a bad thing, as in he’s sucked into the idea of being with his kids and it doesnt matter if its all just a dream. As in He’s lost his grip. Hmm.
It doesn’t matter if it’s a dream or not. The whole thing is weak sauce
Steve, I think part of the reason people are reacting poorly to your comments is that they feel that you are merely being contrary for the sake of it. Why did you find Inception weak sauce? Be specific!
It just didnt feel very consequential, the action seemed to be making up new contrived rules as it went along (floor is lava and tile cracks are lasers) and the discussions between Ellen Page and Leo left me resigned to just letting whatever happen happen but I didn’t feel very invested in any of it. The weepy fatalistic romance with the pretty french babe (Marion Cotilard? sp?) was boring, I didnt care if they planted the idea in Cilian Murphy’s mind or not, which was the whole point of the entire film, and it didnt feel like anything mattered, I didnt care about the mystery of Leo’s wife or his subconscious, it was just boring and depressing. I dont have fond memories of Flatliners either but a coworker of mine agrees with me that Flatliners seems to have aged better in our dream world subconscience
goodbye cupcake snake, hello ensorceled onion!
I was less invested in the inception of the idea and more invested in them just surviving/not going into limbo and just completely losing their minds; in fact, one of the more compelling aspects of the movie, for me, was how completely fucked they were. It’s interesting to read that people didn’t feel like there were consequences for failure, because all I could think about for a long portion of the movie was how terrifying it was that they were pretty much doomed to madness.
Additionally, I also thought Ellen Page’s character was grating- I kept wanting to be like, Girl, don’t be telling Leonardo his business. Dude has been kicking ass in dreams since you were in short pants.
But I found the plot- and the actual heist element- to be really interesting, and the thing with Cotillard went in a lot of directions I didn’t foresee. Add to that some special effects that I felt had a lot of style, and I was a big fan. I’m actually probably going to go and see it again.
Speaking of Juno, every time she opened her mouth, I kept waiting for Michael Cera to show up all emo and soft spoken in short shorts. That would be limbo.
Also, the payoff was a little Shyamalan-esque ridiculous, no?
what was the payoff?
Shyamalan wouldn’t have left the ending ambiguous. The top would have kept spinning, and then Leo would see that it didn’t fall, and then he’d freak out for five minutes and then the movie would end. Nolan’s ending is comparatively subtle.
Oh my gosh, THANK YOU! I was completely into the heist/actiony elements, and I wanted them all to survive more than I wanted Leo to face his inner demons (not that that wasn’t important.)
And Juno is one of my favorite movies, and I am an Ellen Page fan, but she was annoying as hell in this.
agreed. Everytime they went deeper I became very anxious. And the fact that they left arguably the weakest member of the team at the first level was insane. When they saw the assassins and what not maybe they should have rethought keeping the chemist as the gatekeeper to their sanity.
And I enjoyed the Mal stuff at the beginning (especially since I had thought she was a double agent of some sort), it started to drag on me. I could understand if she was a real woman double crossing you, but she’s a figment of your imagination- shoot the bitch!
Inception. YAY.
So this movie was very good. It had great storytelling, great action and great acting (DiCaprio is DiCaprio (“So great obvs no doy -Soft Gabe (Nailed it!)) (“He’s pretty and in Titanic? Fuckin’ SWOON -Ladies) although I kinda really don’t like Ellen Page.
Boo! Get off the acting!
But back to the movie. It’s very smart (and yes it’s Glade!) and everything follows a specific set of rules (for something Christopher Nolan just made up but they kinda seem to make sense like if this dream invasion thing was real, these would be the actual rules).
Plus the ending. OMG THE ENDINGLOLPOGS!!!11!1 (Not the ending-ending but like 10(?) minutes before.) It’s not perfect but it met my quite high expectations and I would recommend that everyone go see it.
Let’s tell Ellen Page to go away.
Go away Ellen Page.
Good, she’s gone.
I saw Ellen Page once at the cinema. She was watching Moon and then she went to the toilet and I went in after her which means I might have used the same one as her and she was so tiny she would fit in a watermelon.
“krindy” that story is HOT!!!!
No do not “go away Ellen Page”. Come hither, Ellen Page, you’re pretty.
And the word of the day is, “CONTRIVED”
-Steve Winwood
this looks gross.
So here’s my take on the spinning top at the end. I don’t think the top is there to make us question whether or not Leo escaped the dreamworld. I think it’s purpose is to show Leo letting go of his wife and the guilt he feels about what happened to her.
I attempted to explain this to a friend, but only got about halfway before he got angry and told me I was wrong and that Nolan DEFINITELY meant for us to question whether Leo got back to reality or not.
But if we’re supposed to leave the theater thinking “Did he get out or didn’t he?” then I really think each of those two possibilities needs to make logical sense within the movie. But both possibilities don’t make sense.
If he is still stuck in limbo or some sort of dreamworld, then the story doesn’t have a conclusion. He’s just in limbo, the end? Does anyone think that’s a satisfying ending? I mean, he’s going to wake up eventually right? And by “eventually” I mean in a few minutes time back in the real world. And when he does wake up, wouldn’t everything just pick up right where it does at the end of the movie anyway? Wouldn’t he just get off the plane and go see his kids? Which is exactly what we saw happen?
See? That ending would make no sense. And that’s why I don’t think Nolan meant for us to consider this a possibility. The only thing that makes sense is that Leo woke up and went home to his kids, which is exactly what the movie showed us.
My friend told me I was over-thinking this, but I think he’s got it exactly backwards. I think my interpretation of the ending is much simpler.
Thoughts?
Just to play devil’s advocate, I thought that the spinning top at the end meant that it was possible that EVERYTHING that came before was a dream and that maybe the entire movie took place within someone’s head. So we never actually saw any waking life, it was all just dreams within dreams, and nothing was real.
I like your interpretation better though. Leo deserves a happy ending for once. (I’ll never forgive Kate Winslet for letting go.)