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Speaking of rape-rape, here is the poster for the remake of I Spit On Your Grave. It’s a modern update of the cult horror classic of the same name from 1978. (I’m sure this time around, there will be way more razor scooters and VitaminWater.) Of course, the film revolves around a lengthy gang rape sequence in which a woman is horrifically brutalized and then left for dead. BUT AT LEAST SHE LOOKS GREAT, RIGHT, LADIES?! Of course, this poster is not that different from the original poster, and one might try to make the argument that ultimately the rape victim gets her bloody, violent, “empowering” revenge. (You know how empowering it is to become a cold-blooded soulless killer after having your humanity fucked out of you by assholes?) But seriously, with this poster. I haven’t seen an aesthetic glorification of one of the worst crimes imaginable since the Lovely Bones poster reminded us of the quiet, natural beauty of CHILD RAPE. I wouldn’t kick this lady out of the forest for screaming crackers, AM I RIGHT, FELLAS? Woof. Awful. No, please, don’t bother, I will show myself to jail. (And then I will ask the warden to get me a copy of this poster as a reward for good behavior and use it to cover up the hole I burrow in the cell wall to make my escape.)
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New York’s Hottest Club is Rape
mr. gibson has a few ideas about what they have in that club.
This club has EVERYTHING like Blackwhite Cupids, Mel Gibson people, and double rainbows all the way.
Could be worse. This could have been a poster for the remake of the Macauley Culkin classic “Getting Even With Dad.”
She must work out.
Oh man, talk about nailing it.
It’s a slow day at work…
Jezebel gonna love this movie.
She sounds like a fun broad. Can I get her digits?
This guy knows
“Well, with an outfit like that, she can expect to get … hey, wait, you aren’t recording me again, are you?”
-Mel Gibson
“DAY OF THE WOMAN”
The original alternate title, it should be pointed out.
And the switch was a complete accident. When the American distributor imported it, they mistakenly switched the title with another film that was included with the same deal.
Ugh. This poster–and the concept for this and the original movie, which I had never heard of–will literally leave me depressed off and on for the rest of the week.
roastgum mentioned Ebert’s review down below: you can read it here if you just want to go full “At Eternity’s Gate” style depressed.
He talks a little about how artless it is; I’m curious about what his take on a version with production values will be. Maybe post-”Saw” none of these questions are relevant anyway. Ugh
I’d spit on her grave, if you know what I mean!
(I don’t know what I mean).
directed by Roman Polanski
Skeezer sitting next to me during The Lovely Bones: I’m disappointed that they didn’t include the rape scene. That wouldn’ve been hot.
I never wished so badly that I had Chris Hansen on speed-dial. Except that time my uncle took off his pants at the elementary school. But that was just an honest mistake.
Not to try and one-up you, but I worked at a movie theater around the time that Revolutionary Road was out. To make a long story short, at the end, right after the abortion scene, a woman complained to myself and a few ushers that a man was “diddling himself”. I had to be the one to check, and sure enough, it was happening. We had to wait for him to leave the theater, as he was the last one out, and he vanished into the night.
There’s just something about that Leonardo DiCaprio as a whiny, middle-aged privileged white guy that gets a person hot.
Sam Mendes is gross.
Before I upvote this, I just want to emphasize that I appreciate your shedding light on the lowest of lows of humanity, and not some idiot wanking to human misery.
thank goodness.
I wish this film was called “I laugh at your farts, We are friends again.” I bet more people would go see it.
I smell Shyamalan’s next project.
…maybe “smell” was the wrong word.
YES. I SPIT ON YOUR SPIT!
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I’m glad you have no problem with the eroticizing of rape. Hope that works out well for you someday.
This guy is probably trying to be inflammatory, but he IS sort of talking about the direct homage to the original’s poster…
And to that end, the poster is virtually identical… So… I don’t think he’s wrong to comment on the artistic choice there… But I’m really just playing Devil’s Advocate, myself, now.
I love that they took 20 lbs off her to bring her up (down?) to modern standards of beauty, but couldn’t think of anything else to do with the poster.
I hate the original so much that I want to fight you.
upvoted for your honesty without social commentary and no snide comment about “liberal college”
I love this comment so much, I want to make you a sweater.
“I Knit Your Sweater” in theaters Summer 2012!
If you want to make me a sweater / hold this thread while I walk toward you
Just kidding though because second law of thermodynamics
you look like a guy would like the original.
damnit, *who would like.
the guy is creepy looking, is what i’m saying.
wow. i went to a super liberal women’s college, and i can’t even find words for this. we’re doing great, america, keep it up!
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Uh…the problem is that portraying the rape of women as entertainment is as common as is it wrong.
of course I think females should be empowered – I won’t speak for the others. However, I think Gabe’s point about the main character “having the humanity fucked out of her” is a solid one. There is a difference between seizing control of an experience to draw power from it and becoming a souless killer.
But, I think going even further back, the original point was that the poster reflects sexual assault in a manner that leans more towards the sexual than the assault.
That being said, haven’t seen the original, and won’t see this, so what do I know.
Oh my god. I’m not surprised that you went to college, at all, and I know exactly which kid you were in those “many” feminist classes.
1. Profess ignorance and confusion. Restate complaint in a way that distorts complaint and makes it sound unreasonable.
2. Make claim about your feminist credentials.
3. Simplify the subject, again away from the actual issue with the subject.
4. Direct a new complaint against the original discussion.
5. Everybody else either gets mad or rolls their eyes.
Now, to pretend you actually want to think about this.
This isn’t about “taking charge and regaining power”; that is the guise that shite like this uses to find new ways to make violence, and in particular sexual violence, an erotic thing. It becomes easily defensible because anything can happen in the movie but the defenders have an “No, but!” It’s pathetic. It’s a new way to make a woman a sexual object, because, hey she’s not defenseless!
I’m not sure why we should ever be happy about someone being “even more brutal” than terrible, terrible people or for the chief power symbol to be more hellish violence.
Finally, returning to what the actual fucking comlpaint with your comment was: that fucking poster. That poster is disgusting. Half-naked. Framed to direct all attention to the revealed ass. Oh, also, she is clearly meant to have JUST BEEN RAPED. She is bleeding, dirty, beat-up, but guess what, we’re being told, “Look how hot this is! Don’t you want to see this hot bitch!?”
Amen. Because of the endless parade of movies and tv shows with similar content eroticizing rape and sexual violence in general, combined with the prevalence of pornography, rape IS sex to a majority of people now. The circle of life apparently.
if we are returning to the “original” comment flow (which rarely happens in the videogum comments) my point was that i have no problem with this looking like the original poster….nothing about the social implications of either, ya’ll brought that into discussion
What the hell? That’s exactly what we all responded to. You said you have no problem with a depiction of a recently gang raped woman as a sexual object, and we said, hey we have a problem with you not having a problem. The social implications are inherent.
It also depends on the viewer.
When I see that poster, I don’t think, “Look at that sexy woman and her exposed asscheeks.”
It’s foreboding. It’s ominous. Not titillating. The original film was the same way for me. I didn’t see it as sexy at all: it was brutal.
grimakins,
Are you joking? You are, right? Should I pull up ten thousand photos of a woman with her back turned to the viewer, either with exposed ass, or at least short skirt, or super tight pants, with one of her shoulders revealed while the top she is wearing seems to be falling off the other shoulder, all the while peaking back at the viewer, or at least beginning to? It’s using all the visual language of selling sex or beauty.
And again, the text goes right to the ass. Seriously, you read right onto her ass.
Hey ladies, hate yourself after being raped? Not sure if the cops will believe you, if your mutual friends will hate you, if you’ll ever feel comfortable in your own skin again, love yourself or let another love you? Well don’t forget to do it all with a rock-hard ass! Don’t let cellulite ruin your rape trial!
He hates these cans! Stay away from the cans!
“It’s using all the visual language of selling sex or beauty. And again, the text goes right to the ass. Seriously, you read right onto her ass.”
Semiotics 101: How to read right into the ass… I, too, went to college. And I concur with your perspicacious statement.
It’s more of an exploitation film than it is a horror film. The presentation is crass and inept, there’s virtually no characterization or structure, and there’s nothing artistic (even in a pulp style) or uplifting about it. Ebert’s zero-star review remains the best summary of the film.
“the main character is shown to be even more brutal than her attackers”
Blechhhhh.
Without relevant credentials besides living on Earth, it has been my impression that participating in the dominant/submissive paradigm both perpetrates and excuses that paradigm, whereupon violently murdering your rapists is actually an example of, and not a solution to, the spread of evil that you mention. In real life, people still raped you even if you kill them; also, killing them constitutes a separate act and probable cause for additional trauma. Vengeance is the function of moral malfunctioning, while reducing overall violence in society is the course of action deserving to be pursued by healthy, cognitively functioning adults.
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Given that most of us enjoy movies that exploit violence for entertainment, I think it’s hypocritical to do a knee-jerk condemnation of a film that exploits sexual violence for entertainment. I don’t think that rape is a special category of thing that should not be represented on film, or that everyone should go all Morality Police whenever it is represented. So while this movie seems gross to me, and the people who enjoy it may be gross, I’m sure there are people out there who would say that being entertained by the many acts of murder in a typical action movie is equally sick. There’s even that one Onion AV Club critic who thinks every movie that presents widespread CGI destruction (Knowing, 2012, Independence Day, etc) is disgusting and reprehensible. Getting upset about violent/sexual film content always makes you look kind of stupid, because film narratives are not, you know, real.
That said, the poster is gross and cynical, and the original movie was a piece of shit coasting on its shock value, so I’m guessing this film will be a piece of shit too?
i want to upvote this 1000 times…we are allowed our opinions and its cool if everyone hates this…but i’m with you on the “special category of thing that should not be represented on film” idea.
Rape is a special category of violence: gendered violence that is even more mentally damaging than it is physically damaging.
It’s a movie. And yes, we should hold people responsible for how they portray violence and rape, but it’s our own responsiblity to be educated enough to know how we feel about what we’re viewing.
Rape is probably a special category in that it is more common than murder and New York City being blown up by aliens. Also, not everyone agrees what rape IS. Most people can tell you if a person is dead or if a major metropolitan area was just exploded, while refraining from blaming the corpse or smoking ruins for having been provocative. So there’s that.
“I liked a movie that you didn’t like.”
- This Guy
“Fuck you.”
- You Guys
“I have no problem with a depiction of a recently gang raped woman as a sexual object being further used as a selling point.
-This Guy
“Wow, you’re a terrible asshole.”
-Us Guys
Oh, Christ. Violence of any sort is an extremely delicate thing when addressed in art or entertainment, and yes, sexual violence is unique in that it leaves a very different type of emotional scar. It comes down to the skill and intent of the filmmaker. Susan George’s rape scene in Peckinpah’s Straw Dogs is eventually played erotically, but it’s a fucking brilliant scene and speaks volumes to her character and the themes. Of course I Spit… was nothing more than exploitation, a cheap revenge fantasy that relied on shock to get butts in seats. The poster was obviously part of that strategy, and the ineptitude of today’s lazy, out-of-touch studio marketing pricks thought they’d try that again.
It’s tasteless to use violence of any kind to sell a product, and I completely understand that rape is a horse of a different color, but straight up brutal violence leaves fucking emotional scars as well. Not to get all personalgum, but I’ve been a victim of horrific violence, and have enormous physical and psychological scars to prove it. When I see some dumb-ass action movie where hundreds of people are gunned down and the assholes in the audience are eating up every last bit of it, I want to fucking vomit in disgust. But you know what? Those people haven’t been through what I have. Before my incident, I’d eat that shit up too. Because it’s fun, dumb adrenaline.
Something like The Expendables or whatever macho bullshit movie is far more offensive to me than fucking I Spit On Your Grave. At least it tries to have some kind of thematic resonance, even if it’s a brain-dead eye-for-an-eye junior high revenge fantasy. At least it’s TRYING to say something, while countless movies get released every year in which the main theme is “KILL”.
I think we’re just so desensitized to “normal” violence (whatever that means) being used for entertainment that we don’t really think much of it. Sexual violence is relatively unexplored by shitty filmmakers with nothing to say, so maybe the reason that it’s so shocking is because it’s one of the last taboos to be shoved down our throats by the Idiocracy that is Hollywood.
I’ll shut up now.
“Rape is a Horse of a Different Color”
-That One’s tombstone
I hate that at this point I’m too stressed and tired to respond as much as this deserves (shitty day all around, not just this thread), but the main bit I want to respond to is you believing that I Spit on Your Grave. I don’t think that it actually will (obviously, haven’t seen it so I can’t say, which is why I’ve tried to keep my commentary to the poster and reactions to it) have thematic resonance, or even try to. I think a lot of times, most of the time, stuff like this is really a cover for actually enjoying the awful, terrible sexualized violence part. It layers that possible thematic resonance over what the people are really setting out to do in order to make it more acceptable.
“At least it’s TRYING to say something, while countless movies get released every year in which the main theme is “KILL”.”
I may have watched the wrong trailer, but the main theme here looks like “KILL” to me.
Yours is of the minority of truly enlightened responses in this thread. Just plain old thanks for speaking up.
Also, I never thought I’d endorse an Uwe Boll movie (although I don’t want to do that, exactly), but “Rampage” was an interesting take on violence in film. Anyone with the nards to watch senseless murder being portrayed exactly as that (but in a less haneke sort of way) should check it out.
The feminist thing to do is call the police. There’s no empowerment in perpetuating violence instead of justice.
I want to tell a joke right here, but this is not a subject of which non-Whoopi Goldbergs should make light.
the main concern is why she isn’t using that knife for making sandwiches.
“blooderscotch” is the lone voice of reason in this endless, boring thread.
Counter-point: “Rape… is it ALWAYS evil?” Discuss.
thank you! great googly moogly! i’d rather go read nerds argue about the “super 8″ movie viral campaign and then beat my head against the wall. maybe orlando bloom can help us all out with his honorary bachelor’s degree.
You two be quiet. WE’RE TRYING TO FIX EVERYTHING.
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I’m a fan of horror. I even like a lot of exploitation film. The point here is, this movie exists. Fictional people rape a fictional person who fictionally kills them back for it. Rape/revenge plots are EXTREMELY COMMON in horror, and even other genres. I didn’t want to say anything more than the fact that prosecuting criminals for rape is the healthiest way for a victim of that rape to recover. It’s fiction and attitudes like yours that keep people from reporting and keep the system dysfunctional.
Rape is not funny or entertaining. This remake is unnecessary, and “celebrates” the core of the original. This poster let’s us know exactly why some studio exec green-lit this project. Hollywood hates women.
Violence can be justice on planet Klingon, I guess, but I live in reality. People really suffer here. People don’t deserve to have friends who think they can solve real problems with Batman solutions.
Can I marry your last paragraph?
“It’s fiction and attitudes like yours that keep people from reporting and keep the system dysfunctional.”
I would wager a guess that it’s the emotional hardship that comes from being raped that keeps people from reporting it. No one has to help the system stay dysfuntional; it does that all on its own through lack of funding, resources, etc.
I thought this was about a young woman’s adventures working on The Daily Show?
4 the assholes indeed. the scantily covered with strategic fabric assholes.
Does this answer everyone’s questions about why everyone is talking about the one racist bit of Mel Gibson’s most recent hate fest, while ignoring his violent vitriol against women?
No?
Really?
Yes?
What would your remaining questions be after seeing how violence towards a woman made into a sexual object is the key selling point for a movie and that’s pretty much the accepted standard?
It’s me. Facebook is leaking all over my Internets again.
Anyway, think of the premise of “Kill Bill.” Fabulous movie, right? Great dialogue, excellent action, brilliant characters and acting.
Rape/Violence/Revenge scenario.
Depending on how the film is done, I think it could actually be worthwhile. Yes, the first one was serious exploitation, but I like to keep an open mind with a dash of hope. Or else I would have a hard time living at all.
Kill Bill was terrible.
That was a single (short) plotline of what was essentially a six-hour movie. Also, a sexualized photographic representation of said plotline was not the most prominent tool used to market the film.
Agreed with this “aniktwo” fellow, Kill Bill = terrible garbage
Tarantino is clearly in the Violence Is Redemptive Camp. I didn’t see Grindhouse but Inglourious Basterds: Duh, and then he had that Sight and Sound interview where he talked about Samuel Jackson playing a “killer slave with supermacho powers” fucking “innocent white girls” and wondering “how can you not be on the slave’s side”, like that’s a real head scratcher for him. I guess we should all scratch our heads until we sever our corpus callosum and see if that helps us crack this nut. And then as you say Kill Bill BASICALLY HAD A RAPE SCENE AND THEN A SCENE WHERE SHE HAD HER “DAY OF THE WOMAN”.
I usually find his stuff to be at least tolerable because he has so many quotation marks around the violence that it turns into a commentary on violence (like Kill Bill with all of its different styles almost seemed like a film class in the different ways violence has been represented in movies throughout history), and I’ll probably see the next movie he makes — it’s not his fault he doesn’t understand his own subtext — but it’s probably worth remembering that the monster in the middle of all of the quotation marks is crap like ‘I Spit On Your Grave’.
Also, I don’t want to fight that guy upthread any more (violence is wrong plus I would lose).
You’re a cool dude, Patrick M. (Sorry I’m not cool enough to reply to your comment directly.)
Maybe you should have a harder time living, then.
I’m surprised this doesn’t have more upvotes.
A teacher from my high school got thrown out for showing this movie in class. It was supposed to be an award to his students for doing well on a test.
Wait, watching I Spit on Your Grave was a reward? What did punishments entail, Gimpsuits?
+1 for just typing Gimpsuit
Thanks. It’s pretty hard to type in this thing.
I think I find the original poster to be more offensive… “No jury in America would ever convict her?” Great, good message all around.
AMERICA’S JURIES: GONNA TAKE A MULLIGAN ON THIS ONE, BOYS.
Who needs the rule of law when you’ve got a great ass?
now that is a butt.
MPAA:
Rated R for pervasive strong sadistic brutal violence, rape and torture, nudity and language.
If the sex was depicted as consensual and fun, that’d be an NC-17 for sure.
Oy. You’re probably right. Great. Now I’m even more pissed off and depressed.
I loved that documentary! MPAA = anti-female pleasure!
I’m actually not familiar with the documentary you’re referencing, but yeah that seems about right.
“This Film is Not Yet Rated”
It is available to watch instantly on Netflix (or at least it was last I checked) and it is definitely worth your time.
It pretty much makes your original point 1000 different times, with great interviews and some undercover @MPAA headquarters stuff. It’s worth a watch.
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I should just give up…
But:
“Commenting positively on the graphic design concept that is hateful towards women for a remake that is likely hateful towards women and overall damaging for a human being to watch is pretty scarily similar to making hateful statements towards women.”
-85% of us
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I’m doing what now?
Flustering me into incomprehensibility apparently.
Truce?
“Changing my screen name to make comments agreeing with myself is clever.”-You
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“Now that’s just stupid.”-me
(wondering how doing something for oneself alone involves commenting on the internets) – Senator Tankerbell
“changing your screen name for a more comedic meta effect on your comments used to get people banned around here but maybe the policy changed..?”
“a kid that tells on another kid is a dead kid patrick m.”
(we are just putting everything in quotes now, right?)
today is a sad day on the ‘gum. what with whoopie, mel, glenn beck for president and this too…
tomorrow can every post be about youtube videos of animals being silly and trampoline accidents? …please?
Seriously, please? I’ve had a shitty day starting last night and today hasn’t gotten better.
The worst shitty days always start last night. Buck up, pt. Tonight’s the all-star game.
Hell of a day to come out of lurkerdom. Bored a work, chose to start commenting after a year of silent observation. Rape, Glenn Beck, Poor Makeup Application, Misogyny and Violence do not make for cute ice-breakers.
YES!!! MORE SILLY ANIMALS PLEASE!!!
Oh crap just downvote me already. There’s the the thumps down button—————-^^^
I think a remake of this in unnecessary. I will not see it for the same reasons I did not hear the Gibson tapes.
Now, in the time the original came out movies were all about exploitation. It doesn’t mean that it made it okay to make the movie, just saying I’m not surprised they made it then. Also I have not seen that neither do I plan to see it. I do however read Videogum. I love all of it; the great and the good. However complaining about a movie that exploits rape and then posting the rape victim’s half naked ass seems a little counterproductive.
Without having seen it, I think this movie basically does to rape victims what Tarantino did to genocide victims. I have not seen the original “Inglorious Bastards” but I did see “Inglorious Ba$terdz(spellling?)” and I feel that this might be the same movie with slightly different plot points. Both movies turn the victims into monsters, both glorify violence and give you a reason to cheer for blood. Now, IB was a good movie that would have been great without the cartoonish violence. I think making the “basterds” bloodthirsty and “cool” was a disservice to WW2 veterans. A tasteful alternative to glorified violence is what keeps Tarantino from becoming one of the greatest directors of all time, of all time!! Anyways, what was my point? Oh yeah, I had no point.
“However complaining about a movie that exploits rape and then posting the rape victim’s half naked ass seems a little counterproductive.”
Gabe didn’t [necessarily, ugh] post a rape victim’s ass, he posted an actress’s ass portrayed in promotional material for a movie that portrays rape. It is the disconnect between the content of the poster and the expected content of the movie that constitutes a large part of the OP’s discontent. I think!
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“taken a stab” oh I get it, good one, sarah j. disagree if that is your name
what? that’s funny.
I have a problem with this poster, for a few reasons, but I have absolutely no problem with the content of the original movie. A woman who is brutally raped has the right to turn that around on her attackers, and it’s cathartic in a pulpy sort of way to see that happen. Killing her attackers doesn’t make her soulless; she’s not drowning kittens. Cold-blooded? Sure, but she has to be. Maybe the point at which violence should be glorified is when it’s against rapists and nazis.
Of course, the practical effects of demonizing rapists is that it becomes impossible to convict anyone, lets try to find the most effective method of finding those who committed the act within a reasonable doubt guilty, even if it means curtailing some of our emotionally satisfying rhetoric, etc, etc.
Of course, the practical effects of demonizing rapists is that it becomes impossible to convict anyone
No kidding. I had a really heated argument with a friend’s boyfriend over whether falsely being accused of rape was worse than being raped and not getting legal justice for it — he didn’t come out and say that, exactly, but went off on a tirade about how it ruins your life forever even if no charges are pressed, some friends of his were falsely accused by bitchy exes, etc. etc. As long as people feel that we have to bend over backwards to protect innocent men from the consequences of being accused of rape (because women love being interrogated about their sexual history in court just to get back at a dude!), accusations won’t be taken as seriously and/or won’t be made at all.
Those bitchy ex’s really didn’t think about any real victims feelings either. Neither him or the bitchy ex’s are helping anything. As you said, Sophia, false accusations nullify the validity of actual rape claims. Victims fear going to court and meanwhile Finland is getting a wrap on the knuckles by Amnesty International for their very vague definitions of what constitutes rape. I know a woman who’s being buttsurfed by Finland’s redONKulous attitudes to sexual assault and violence against women.
Then along comes this movie…
Yup, keep muddying those waters. THANKS.
I’m surprised they are staying so faithful to the original. I’d just assumed the new version would be Kristen Stewart getting intruded upon by the media.
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Oh man, you pulled out that line in one of those feminist classes, didn’t you?
You might want to look into what free speech actually protects, FYI. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Did you erase your info or get hacked? Just curious.
Also I agree that you have a right to speak your mind, but don’t be surprised if people disagree with you. This is hardly North Korea, if it were we’d be listening to Bieber. Like I said i have not seen the original so i can’t judge you but I get why people would get turned off by your statements, it’s not so much the opinion as much as the arguing.
Een Russia, Internit kommenters silence YOU!
Taking offense is also free speech… dumbass.
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I want to lick you like a kitten.
“rajma” do you actually lick kittens? that is disgusting and I’m calling the cops
Someone has a crush on liberals.
화장실이 어디예요?
좌회전 후, 복도를 이동합니다.
I’m not offended by all the genres and sub-genres of exploitation movies, or horror, gore, rape or ultra violent tentacle nonsense rape porn stuff; if it’s just consenting adults trying to make weird movies and shocking stuff together. As long as we are talking about Fictions made by consenting adults where no one is actually being hurt IRL then I don’t give a care what you make.
What is offensive to me is how we are seeing everything recycled with no new ideas. Why do a remake of Last House on the Left, or Nightmare on Elm Street? Why not make your own original work? Why not do something new or more interesting?
Also lame but not really offensive: anonymous commentators fighting the good fight against Rape and Racism and All that is Evil in anonymous blog comments. Get real, people.
Sorry, Steve.
This Thread does need more rainbows.
Most heartily seconded.
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Can’t we all just enjoy a horror movie where women are valued for their brains, for once?
Statistically, 9 out of 10 people enjoy gangrape.
(Sorry, someone had to.)
where was all this feminist sentiment in the Glen Beck lady thread?
TIRED. I feel like I’m already that “takes everything too seriously” guy, so I was hesitant to say anything to the whole “Mel Gibson should call her” deal; long, long ago I realized it would be a hopeless battle to point out how 75% percent of the comments on threads like that are “She’s ugly! HAH!”; and I didn’t want to wage a two-front war.
I don’t feel like wading through there again, but it seemed like at least some of jokes about her appearance were jokes about the choices she has made to look one way, and not other infinite, mostly better ways. And those jokes aren’t necessarily worse than jokes about how crazy she is acting. A lot of the time these internet people are actually unstable, which is sad and not funny except sometimes when they are also high-status targets like Beck. But in this case she probably is speaking to a very small audience, as the video I clicked on had 50 views, a number that indicates she is not a threat as such, except maybe to herself and the people in the general vicinity. Basically, it is hard to make guesses about a human being’s agency, but it is easy to guess that this is a crappy poster, and even easier to guess that sadly, this is the battle which presents receiving the smaller headache.
Conservative women can be demeaned and sexismed against, obviously. See Sarah Palin.
are you FUCKING kidding me? i had to watch this movie and write a paper on whether i thought it was art or porn in a film & censorship class. one of the (if not THE) most difficult things i have ever had to watch.
The sequel sounds a lot happier. “I drink your milkshake”
In 2004, in India, “a group of women — ordinary slum-dwellers and daily wage-earners — allegedly killed a man who had been tormenting them for long years.”
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1040822/asp/look/story_3100122.asp
… I found that today through Slate’s article about the women’s gangs in India attacking wife-beaters.