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Yes! Finally! I should have known that what we all needed was a good Locke episode to get things back on track! Locke was like, “Why don’t you save your papier-mache sub-Universal Studios sets and your sitcom cameos for another Kate episode, we have work to do here.” High-five, Locke.
So, in bizarro land, Locke is alive again, and back in a wheelchair, and he is dating that lady again! The one who broke up with him because she decided that she didn’t want to be with a lying, potentially sociopathic, chronic depressive with Major Daddy Issues. They are engaged to be married! And apparently, based on something she says, Locke is still on speaking terms with his dad? In bizarro land, maybe he is in a wheelchair for a reason OTHER than because of his dad throwing him out of a plateglass window. Anything is possible! I’m just saying, he is still talking to his bizarro dad in bizarro town, and back in the real world, when your dad throws you through a plateglass window because you won’t stop giving him a headache about how he stole your kidney, that’s a dealbreaker, ladies! Locke is like, “I better sit in a bathtub and drink some tea and look at fabric samples.” The world is topsy-turvy!
His lady finds bizarro Jack Shepard’s spinal surgery business card, and she tells Locke to call him because you never know. Huh? I mean, sure, yes, we all need to hold out hope in this world, it is the only way to combat the darkness, but ever since Oceanic flight 815 did or didn’t crash kind of, people are tossing around spinal surgery like it’s a Legacy Set of Encyclopedia Brittanica. Anyway, Locke is not sure if he wants to put his life in the hands of some dude he met in the Lost Luggage (LOST LUGGAGE!) Department, and I don’t blame him. If I was stuck in a wheelchair and a spinal surgeon came up to me out of nowhere and asked how I ended up in a wheelchair because he is a spinal surgeon and thinks his medical expertise means that everything is his business, I would say, “that is actually none of your business, and good day to you, sir.”
Then this dude fires him from his telemarketing job:
Grosssssssssss. Guess what his name is? His name is Randy. Grossssssssssss. Although, to be fair to Randy, Locke did get his company to pay for him to fly to Australia under the auspices of going to a conference that he did not go to so that he could go on a walkabout that he did not go on, so that seems like pretty reasonable grounds for termination. Also, what company sends a telemarketer to Australia to go to a conference? And what kind of conference is it? Headset cleaning and maintenance? Also, if John Locke didn’t go to the conference AND didn’t end up going on the walkabout, what did he do for the rest of the trip? OH, LOST, ALWAYS WITH THE MYSTERIES AND QUESTIONS! Speaking of mysteries and questions, John cleans out his desk and goes to his car and runs into the owner of the company:
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!
Hurley is like “you know, I also own a temp company, call this number and they will hook you up.” So Locke goes to Mr. Cluck’s Temp Agency, or whatever, and he meets with one of the job placement officers:
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!
Locke and Rose have an argument because Locke wants a temp job in construction and Rose is like “let’s be realistic,” and Locke is like, “why don’t you be realistic,” and Rose is like, “how about terminal cancer, is that realistic enough for you?” and Locke is like, “sometimes I feel like I’m not in a wheelchair, but in a shamechair.” So he gets a temp job as a substitute teacher, and goes into the faculty lounge for some tea and meets one of the other teachers:
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!
Oh man. Obviously that last one is the real Criss Angel Mindfreak because even if the plane never crashed on the island, and everyone made it safely back to Los Angeles, Ben should still be on the island (same with Desmond from the season opener). Welcome to Bonkers Town, Population: This Show! Locke goes home and tells his fiance that he was fired from his job and that he is not going to call the weird spinal surgeon from the airport, and his fiance is basically like, it’s OK, I love you. Uh, fiance, have you seen the Dexter Morgan knife case?
You don’t seem to care at all? Fair enough. Some people just have a calmer reaction to discovering their husband-to-be has a giant titanium suitcase filled with all the knives than other’s.
MEANWHILE, back on THE ISLAND. Check it out, dudes, Smokecam!
Smoke Monster Locke has tied Richard Alpert up in a tree? When last week’s episode ended, I thought that Locke had led a bunch of people off the beach into the jungle, but apparently everyone else is still on the beach and it’s just Smoke Monster Locke and Richard Alpert in a canvas laundry bag.
Smoke Monster Locke says something about candidates or something and Richard is like what are you talking about candidates and Smoke Monster Locke is like Jacob never told you? And Richard Alpert is like told me what? And this is already a theme for this season I can tell because it has been happening A TON. It goes something like this:
Character 1: Oh, don’t you know about hint at a new mystery?
Character 2: What do you mean, hint at a new mystery?
Character 1: Oh my God, I’m sorry, I thought you knew all about the mystery.
Audience: WHAT?
Smoke Monster Locke asks Richard to come with him, but Richard is like No Way, Jose. And throughout the episode people talk about how Smoke Monster Locke is “recruiting.” For what? Who knows. Meanwhile, back on the beach, they bury the real John Locke in Mr. Ecko’s graveyard, and I was really hoping Mr. Ecko would come back, but he didn’t come back, but I am still hoping. Do what’s right, Carlton Lindelof, or whoever. Ben is like “John Locke was a good man, and I am sorry I murdered him.” Good speech, Ben! That is a normal speech someone gives at a burial.
But Smoke Monster Locke is recruiting! Whatever that means! He finds Sawyer all drunk in a tank top listening to The Stooges, classic Sawyer Style, in the Dharma campground. “Juliet always loved the Arts and Crafts Cabin best!” He offers Smoke Monster Locke a drink of Dharma Whiskey, and Smoke Monster Locke is like, “you sure don’t seem to mind that I am dead,” and Sawyer is like, “Listen apple cheeks, you don’t dance with the coyote until the moon is full,” or whatever. He ain’t care! But also he knows that Smoke Monster Locke is not Regular Locke. Anyway, they go out into the jungle for some answers, naturally, and Smoke Monster Locke cannot shake these visions of a wastrel boy. Come back here, wastrel!
The little boy is like “you know you can’t kill him,” and him is Jacob no duh, and Smoke Monster Locke shouts “DON’T YOU TELL ME WHAT I CAN AND CAN’T DO!” just like Real Locke! Oh, I hope that there is some Real Locke left inside of him and in the final episode there is one of those miserable scenes were someone is like “Come on, Real Locke, I know you’re in there, you have got to fight back,” and then you see, like, all kinds of fighting faces where the two Lockes are wrestling for control of the Locke body and it’s the worst. Just kidding! I don’t want that to happen! Anyway, Richard takes a brief moment to tell Sawyer to be careful because Smoke Monster Locke is recruiting. Yes, we know, Dr. Eyeliner. Also, this is funny to me for some reason:
I imagine if Sawyer ever got off the island and started a Facebook account, all of his pictures would look just like this, but with varying lengths of hair/beard.
Anyway, Sawyer and Smoke Monster Locke go down an Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom rope ladder to a secret cave. Have you guys ever heard of a deus ex machina? Well, in Lost it is called a deus ex cave, temple, and/or Dharma substation. They are always inventing new places whenever they feel like they need to explain something. Fair enough. It’s your island, boys. So there is a scale with a white rock and a black rock on it, and Smoke Monster Locke throws the white rock into the ocean, and even Sawyer is like, “you are corny.”
Then they go into the cave and everyone’s names are written on the ceiling. These are Jacob’s candidates! Candidates for what?! Candidates to “protect the island.” Protect the island from what? From nothing, says Smoke Monster Locke, although I really do not find him to be a reliable narrator at this point. Anyway, I guess he recruits Sawyer. But also, each of the names on the cave corresponds to one of the crazy numbers. Sure. But when Sawyer asks about the numbers, Smoke Monster Locke just says, “Whatever, Jacob had a thing for numbers.”
BE CAREFUL, LOST. Seriously, if that is the only explanation for the numbers, that they correspond to Jacob’s secret cave because he just made it up for fun, I am going to write such a scathing paragraph buried in some recap on this little-read pop culture blog some day, it will make your head spin. THAT IS NOT A THREAT IT IS A PROMISE.
This guy knows what I’m talking about:
I wish every week could be a Locke episode. What’s next week going to be? Fucking, Bernard?
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It may just be manipulation on the part of a television show, but every time someone from the Island pops up on not-the-Island, I go all
Student 1: “Mr. Linus is creepy.”
Student 2: “I know and he always has like black eyes and stuff.”
Student 1: “I hate history.”
I was late to Mr. Linus’s class today, and he locked me in a bear cage. High school sucks!
Shit, dude, when I got looked in the bear cage, I got laid. Check out my abs.
Where are my answers, Lost?????
You promised answers, Lost!!!
AND DON?T TELL ME TO WAIT!!!
I said it last night and I will say it again. Will someone please cast that wastrel boy as River Phoenix, age 11?
Guys! Vanity Fair did the casting for this season of Lost and Walt was “too old.”
If “Vanity Fair” did the casting, you know why Walt didn’t make the cover…
If it turns out the whole show has just been some tropical Charlie and the Chocolate factory and Jacob is some mystical Willy Wonka, looking for his successor, I will be PISSED
Don’t tell the writers of Lost what they can and can’t do!
Great episode and recap. The show made me cry twice (when Rose said she had cancer and when Ben gave Locke’s eulogy) and the recap made me cry once (that computer guy at the end reminds me of my absent father).
I’m just really glad that The Lockeness Monster kept Locke’s catchphrase. That is honestly all that matters to me because no matter who is inhabiting that body you CAN’T TELL HIM WHAT HE CAN’T DO.
“The Lockeness Monster” deserves more upvotes.
Great episode and great recap. The reason Desmond and Ben are taking flights and being teachers in the alternate reality, is that they didn’t just prevent the plane from crashing, they blew the whole island to the depth of the ocean before any of them would have ever got there. If they were still on the island, to quote another Raaaaaaaandy, they’d have to do that shit, UNDER WAAAAAATER!
Ben would have been there when the island was blown up. but since everybody else’s lives in the alternate reality seemed to be better before the crash would have happened, his might have been better and maybe he was on the submarine that left the island.
I’d imagine it’s more likely that they never even went to the island. Look at Dr. Ethan Goodspeed, he seemed cool, and non needle happy. And Ben seems like the type of European History teacher who has NEVER been on an island (you can just tell about who is and isn’t island folk, ya know?)
oh, that’s a good point. so do you think that the alternate reality didnt splinter off when the bomb exploded, but has been a parallel reality?
I think that Jacob has been redoing these iterations of people coming to the island until he reached the one cycle where they were able to correct whatever it was that kept making time circle back on itself. And in the Corrected timeline, the island is underwater, likely (now) a non needed island/entity/place, and thus a location Ben and his dad, the goodspeeds, nor any of our oceanic/ajira people would have ever had to visit.
Sorry, on re-read I never answered your question.
The Bomb in 1977 did kill the island and sink it in the correct reality (the flash sideways we are getting now). In the original reality, however, instead of killing them and everything else, it just allowed time to finish up to the 2008 part of that timeline, move the consciousness of those involved, become the incident that gets a hatch, etc. and now the candidates need to learn the big lesson Jacob has been trying to deliver to them.
But yeah, parallel realities always exist at all times, our consciousness as we experience it now only allows us to perceive ONE TRUE reality (when in fact it is an infinite set). Something tells me that Jacob is an exception to this and exists outside of time (as we saw his Child Avatar warning Flocke not to kill Sawyer).
The difference for the lost-ionaires is the fact that their consciousness was impacted at 1977 and thus sent to parallel realities and to the future at once. Juliet is the sole lucky one (thus far) to have been able to die in the BS version of reality and awaken (“It worked.”) in the “corrected” (really alternate) reality.
maybe they blew up time too. like, the island can travel through time and when you blow it up you blow up the island in every time. or something.
Doesn’t Ethan wind up injecting Claire with some stuff that affects her pregnancy (maybe) in both realities… he’s just doing it in a real hospital in Bizarro world?
Am I the only one that didn’t really like this episode? The backstory was great, but the island scenes were meh. Fake Locke’s “Whatever, Jacob was the leader of nothing, protecting the island form nothing, he liked numbers, look at this chalk list” was deeply unsatisfying. Maybe it’ll all be important in future episodes, but ABC is promising me answers and it is not delivering!
Thank goodness the island is magic and Sawyer gets a bottle of whiskey whenever he needs it.
I’m happy that someone on the island had the foresight to purchase a Stooges record just in case some of the scientists needed to fuck some shit up.
i grew up in Hawaii and when my dad would go to the mainland for business trips, i would give him a list of records to buy for me. he actually did it (my dad is awesome) so i like to imagine that some kid on the island was reading music mags and making a list for a parent who went to the mainland to buy records for him/her. because obviously this show is very reality-based and i have to invent a backstory for every throwaway moment.
I used to have to do the same thing, but instead of Hawaii, I lived in Kentucky, and instead of “father goes to mainland”, it was “mother goes to Wal-Mart.”
Whiskey and “Search and Destroy”? Sawyer has the most cliche breakdowns ever!
Just like Sawyer, when I get drunk, I ask, “Do you like to read? You know, books?”
I wish my house were like the island in this one specific way.
> Richard Alpert is the sack monster! ?????
TWSS
All I could think of last night was the smoke monster checking out its reflection in the window and saying, “Does this smoke make my ass look fat?”
Great recap!
Also, I thoroughly enjoy the idea of Marc Ecko running around on the lost island, giving people t shirts sewn of hemp and blood printed with ridiculous designs…
For realdo,
It’s Mr. Eko.
I guess the one constant across all possible universes is that Randy Nations is an asshole.
Isn’t buying a temp agency the natural progression after you win the lottery? My list goes.
1. Nice car
2. Mansion
3. Temp agency
I have to disagree with the “The little boy is like “you know you can’t kill him,” and him is Jacob no duh” statement. Jacob is already dead, and the kid didn’t say “you shouldn’t have killed him.” I think he is referring to Sawyer because now that Jacob is dead, he can’t kill any of the possible Candidates, because he can’t kill “Jacob”, and any one of them is “Jacob”.
So was Jacob’s goal to confound Flocke in the end game? Make him powerless by the “Rules of Engagement” concerning leadership candidates and all of this by bringin in all these possible leader candidates and setting their paths in motion through Hurley?
OK, a few seasons ago when Ben tells Widmore that he can’t kill him… is there a correlation here? Because I keep thinking there is.
I think so too but I don’t know if the rules are the same for Ben/Widmore as for Jacob/Locke Ness Monster. I feel like whatever “game” Ben and Widmore play would probably be like checkers and Jacob/Locke Ness Monster like chess, and what goes on between the Losties like, Connect Four or something. And there’s backgammon somewhere in this metaphor? WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE BOARD GAMES!!!
You’re on to something here. Locke = SORRY, Juliet & Sawyer = LIFE? And Kate = TROUBLE. But in all seriousness (????) in board game comparisons, whatever Ben and Widmore are playing is like Chutes & Ladders while Jacob/Smocke are playing GO? This could go on for an entire aisle of a toy store!!!
Protect the island from what? ZE GERMANS?
I have to disagree with the “The little boy is like “you know you can’t kill him,” and him is Jacob no duh” statement. Jacob is already dead, and the kid didn’t say “you shouldn’t have killed him.” I think he is referring to Sawyer because now that Jacob is dead, he can’t kill any of the possible Candidates, because he can’t kill “Jacob”, and any one of them is “Jacob”.
Damn It! The website told me the comment had a submission error the first time, so I resubmitted! DON’T TELL ME WHAT I CAN’T DO VIDEOGUM!
I geuss Don Mattingley didn’t work out as a candidate. Maybe it was because of the sideburns.
New theory: Jacob = Mr. Burns
I think it will be hilarious if Smokey/Man in Black starts turning into a chump just from inhabiting Locke’s body.
Your script excerpt illustrating the new theme proves that Lost is taking a page from the Aaron Sorkin School of Ping-Pong Dialogue. “You hear about the thing?” “The thing?” “The thing. Did you hear about it?” “You’re saying there’s a thing.” “It’s a big thing.” “So make with the thing already.” “Sorry, can’t. Gotta turn and walk down this hallway now.”
Weren’t the women and children evacuated from the island before the Incident (then presumably brought back post-incident, pre crash of Flight 815)? Hence Baby Ethan was taken off the island and went on to a perfectly normal life as an OB/GYN (his destiny is to take women’s babies out!).
Or give them a confusing concoction of injections to keep their babies in.
It’s possible I COMPLETELY made this up, but I felt pretty sure about it. Oh well.
Wait, no, I didn’t make it up! Remember, Baby Charlotte is on the island, then is evacuated. (Thank-you Lostpedia). The order came before last season’s finale, after Dr. Chang realizes those guys are OMG from the future.
So boom. Some people who were children got off the island in splinter-world because they got off the island in our continuity as well – but for some of them, the island still being there caused them to go back. No island = Baby Ethan gets to grow up to not scare the absolute shit out of us in Season 1.
“Then they go into the cave and everyone’s names are written on the ceiling.”
Clarification: Everyone BUT Kate;s name (and I guess one of the Kwons?). I am unsure how to take that because that either means a) Kate was never a “candidate” and maybe isn’t that important and maybe will die soon or b) she’s THE most important one and the final episode will all be about her, and I’ll have to kill myself.
I immediately thought; “Geez, it only took 785 episodes to find out that Kate does not matter!”
Hurley: So what do you do here?
Locke: Oh, I actually just got fired.
Hurley: Well, I’m actually so rich and well-off that I own a TEMP AGENCY. I can totally get you hooked up with a job through the TEMP AGENCY I own. Yeah, sure, maybe you could’ve just gone to ANY TEMP AGENCY and they would’ve hooked you up with a job, cause that’s the entire point of their existence, but regardless, I want you to be grateful of this huge solid I’m doing for you.
Locke: Hey man, I keeps it real.
What should we call the bad Locke/Smoke Monster? Ideas:
The Smoke Lockester
The Lockeness Smokester
Smocke
I kinda like Smoke Monster Locke. It sounds like a rap name. Like Jam Master Jay.
And if we see Locke with his dad in the flash-sideways reality, we can call them “Pop n’ Locke!”
It took until Noon Central Time, but you Killed It.
DS3M, you’re starting to make me feel uncomfortable? All the replies to my posts, the experimenting with text colors, making statements about things being dead all the time? I’m worried. What’s a monster to do? WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME?! *sob*
That would be awesome! But if he’s ever around Jacob again we have to call them “Salt n’ Pepa!” Deal? Deal.
Can we talk about Benjamin “Baby Glasses” Linus for a second?
Jeez man, it’s like you’ve never seen a European History teacher before in your life!
apparently another one of the island’s powers is that it allows you to sober up hella fast. the island is such a buzz kill.
Isn’t Peg Bundy a bigger sitcom cameo that Kenny Power’s brother? Other than that – great recap. Criss Angel Mindfreak!!!
Deus Ex Cave Canem.
I was with everyone that the flash sideways were lame, until this episode. I like that Locke was finally able to come to terms with his paralysis and am really interested in seeing how all of this is going to come together in the end. But really are we going to have to wait until the last 10 minutes of the finale to find out?
What I like, and have liked, about the ‘flash-sideways’ is that it allows action and revelation (such as it is) on the Island and thoughtful rumination on the themes in LA X. It seems like a very elegant way of handling this. If they didn’t do it this way, you really could have the nice moments (like Jake and Locke’s conversation at the airport or Locke’s coming to terms with his limitations) in the midst of the ‘crazygonuts’ becuase at this point on the island people aren’t going to have too many heart-to-hearts, what with all the OMGing going on. Unless you are partying with Sawyer and his ‘Ragin’ Full On’ iTunes Playlist.
How is that cave a deus ex machina? It’s introduction didn’t instantly, unbelievably resolve anything. For that matter, no single cave/station/temple has deus ex machina’d a damn thing on this show. Is any new setting or character a deus ex machina simply by merit of its newness and having something to do with the plot? Should the entirety of Lost have taken place on the beach? Are you wishing this television series was just The Beach starring Leonardo DiCaprio? I knew it.
so, according to jacob’s cave, kate isn’t even a candidate, right? she was just a coincidence. so why are we wasting so much plot on her, anyway?? prediction: kate wins the island in the end.
but jacob did visit kate when she was a child. maybe they didn’t show kate’s name and number because they know how much people hate her.
but did you notice the numbers next to the six names in the cave? 4 – locke, 8 – reyes, 15 – ford, 16 – jarrah, 23 – shephard, 42 – kwon. fer real. look it up for yourself: abc dot com.
maybe she used to be a candidate, but she still has that jacob’s touch attraction to the island? am i watching this show right?
and by jacob’s touch attraction, of course, i mean that their souls belong to the island, because jacob stole them. i’ll see myself out.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the smoke monster is actually good & will eventually join forces with the Losties. Like when Ogre joined the Nerds.
Sorry to go all nerd on you, but that’s not exactly right. The nuke did go off before Desmond would have arrived, but Ben was already on the island BEFORE they nuked the Swan station. Remember, Sayid shot him? Also, he had already been “turned” by the others after being shot by Sayid, also BEFORE the nuke went off.
So it is pretty odd that he would have 1) not died in the nuke, 2) would be seemingly a pretty normal guy and not all “innocence gone” like Richard Alpert warned back in Season 5.
One other thing: there was an interview with EW.com right after the season premiere where Damon and Carlton suggested that it wasn’t the nuke that sunk the island. Which is great, because everyone knows that nukes don’t sink islands while leaving every structure on them intact. Except the statue, apparently. Anyway, I think we’ll get a different explanation for Lostlantis at some point.
Umm… that was supposed to be a reply to a much earlier comment, which I now realize has already been replied to. Fuckin’ internet. You crazy for this one, Al Gore. THROWBACK!
”wierdest damn funeral I’ve ever been to”
line of the season!
Do we know who the wastrel kid is? Because at first I thought it was a kiddie version of Ghost Jacob but my friend thought it could be Aaron which would be FREAKY and now I’m not sure anymore.
Where was Tyra?!?!? Oops, sorry. Wrong show.
maybe it’s just really obvious to everyone else, but my friend didn’t notice the song Sawyer was playing was all about meeting the devil and making a deal with him. and when Locke cut down Alpert, the way he tried to tempt him was very reminiscent of how Satan tries to tempt people- promising instant gratification in exchange for devotion, while criticizing Jacob the same way y-hweh often is. The Losties were all touched by God/Jacob when they were most vunerable emotionally. DEY FOUND GOD/RELIGION. OR IT FOUND DEM!
and also, when Sawyer agreed to follow Locke, his last words were “hell yes.” Yes, Hell. now I could be tripping, but after the Stooges’ devil song, LOST luggage, etc., I woudn’t put it past them at all.
also also, Locke’s fiance’s shirt said Peace & Karma, but she had black fingernail polish which is really a strange choice. again, could be tripping. but doubt ittttt!
I sincerely, sincerely doubt that the numbers are just there to be there. That doesn’t even sound realistic. Of course they’re going to explain them. It’s either that Smokey doesn’t know or is lying. It’s strange, because Smoke Monster has kind of supplanted Ben in a lot of ways. He is the mysterious villain manipulating our characters on, getting motherfuckers murdered and trying to kill them, constantly having people be like “DONT TRUST HIM” with startling bursts of vunerability and also his and Jacob’s ‘You Can’t Kill Me’ chess game is reminiscent of Ben/Widmore’s. He even is stopped from killing someone by an apparition (for Smokey, it’s White Walt/Young Jacob/Old Aaron for Ben it’s his daughter/smokey).
also, if Smoke Locke turned into Ben’s daughter to keep Ben from trying to kill Smoke Locke near the end of last season, why did Ana Newcia say that Smoke Monster was trapped in Locke’s form? retcon!
sidenote:
You know who rules? Everyone who came on the freighter. The pilot, Miles, Farraday. Charlotte was kind of boring, but as a plot device ruled. And Keamy was such a great villain. Genuinely scary as shit.
Nice post. I have a couple blips to add-
1) You just called that spooky white kid White Walt. I think that should DEFINITELY be his name always, from this day forward.
2) I think Tone-Locke told Ben not to kill him was to snap him into obedient-Jacob-stabbing shape. If Ben still had diabolical plans, they were squashed when he thought his own fake-daughter told him to stop meddling and just do as Locke says.
3) I must stand up for Illana here. Don’t call her Ana Newcia! She has much more potential than that drunk lamp. Although I had more faith in her involvement in the story when she had Bram at her side. She seemed lost in grief and had toruble focusing during last night’s episode.
4) Everyone from the freighter DOES rule. I have a totally plutonic infatuation with Lapidus. Talking about role switching this season, Lapidus has definitely taken Hurley’s role of “I don’t know what’s going on, I don’t much care, and I’m going to talk about how crazy this shit is whenever I damn well please.” LOVE Lapidus. The freighter people were awesome. Even Abaddon and Naomi Dorrit were cool. Season 4 was a huge mess of fun.
5) I’m so happy everyone’s ears pricked up when they heard LOST LUGGAGE. That’s so funny.
oh no, I totally get -why- Tone Locke (hoooly shit. that is such a good name) shape-shifted into whatsherfaceben’sdaughter. I just don’t understand -how-, if he’s supposedly stuck. Perhaps killing Jacob kept him in the form of Locke?
btw, this was one of my favorite episodes of Lost ever. maybe it’s just how bad I thought the first two were, but I can’t get over how satisfying it felt on every level. So good to see Sawyer back acting like Sawyer. He gets so annoying whenever he’s in love.
Naomi’s murder is one of the best Lost moments ever. insane. hilarious. right up there with Jack playing football with the Others for me.
a mystery that isn’t brought up nearly enough is Ben’s magic box that Locke’s father suddenly apparated into. Perhaps it was Smokey the entire time?
I’m a little late to the party, as I was only able to watch the episode tonight, but I’m going to throw out a few questions/theories anyway because this is the smartest place on the internet.
1) THE CAVE- Smokey Locke says this is Jacob’s cave, but I don’t really believe him. I think it is smoke monster’s cave and he is the one who wrote the names/numbers because he is trying to find specific people that will help him get “home”. Jacob already has a hideout in the statue foot and he was weaving a tapestry that seemed to serve a similar purpose to the cave wall writings. In an episode in season 3 it is stated that Jack is NOT on Jacob’s list, and yet his name is written on the cave wall. Also, The others sent Hugo back to camp when they were captured on the dock at the end of Season 2 even though his name was on the cave wall as well. Even the writing and names on the cave wall seems a bit crazy like The Shining or something and doesn’t fit with the elegant nature that Jacob seems to give off. The numbers have been stated to be part of the Valenzetti Equation that predicts the end of the world. So, what if the end of the world is what happens when the smoke monster is able to leave the island, and one of those people/numbers is the variable that will allow that to happen?
2)FLASH-SIDEWAYS- I don’t think that Juliet detonated the H-bomb, and that nor the Incident caused the alternate reality. I think the Incident happened as it did before, and that is what transferred the losties into present time. When they get back to the present, the Swan Hatch was still built, so the nuke did not destroy the energy pocket. I think DHARMA was cleaning up after the Incident and found the nuke and attached it to the failsafe switch that Desmond later triggered. Something is going to happen later in the season that actually causes the alternate reality where the Island is sunk. One reason for this idea is Ben showing up as a history teacher. If the H-bomb sunk the Island, he would be dead because he was shot by Sayid and given to the others to get healed before the H-bomb plan even happened. Something has to reset time way back before Ben ever comes to the Island, and not just reset time for the passengers on 815.
OK that’s probably enough crazy rambling for now, time travel and alternate realities tend to bring that out in me. One final note though, I would love it if the guy who played Biff in Back to the Future showed up somewhere.
Ugh, I just thought of something about the alternate reality thing. We saw the DHARMA village fully built on sunken Island, so the reset has to happen after DHARMA got there but before Ben got to the island. So confused now.
I’m pretty sure the side/alternate/what if time line that is being shown now is to (possibly) serve the notion that crashing on the island, saved their lives. In essence, they have better lives because of the plane crashing, and they are alive because they are on the island. I am almost willing to say that we are going to see some of the characters die in the alternate time line because of this (i.e. Rose, for starters).
Concerning your Point #1:
Something to note is that over on Lostpedia if you check out the “Candidates” entry there’s a list of all the names that appear on the wall. A whole lot of people on there encountered the Smoke Monster on more than one occasion, including the entire French Expedition Team, a handful of the 1954 U.S. military, and a bunch of DHARMA members.
Smoke Locke was all over a lot of them at one time or another.
Check it out!
I really don’t like the parallel Lost. I watch the show for what happens on the island. Without the island there ain’t no show! Get back to my stories.
The best part of this (really good!) episode was that Jack wasn’t in it.
Also, Kate’s name wasn’t associated with a number. I know we know this and have already talked about. What I can’t remember is – wasn’t there some point where someone mentioned that she wasn’t wanted because she wasn’t good? Like, her name didn’t make some list at some point in the series? Probably because Jacob told her not to steal and she did anyway.
Lots of great analysis late posters! I forget about all of these crazy details… my head is stuck in a perpetual yogurt cup because I work 60 hours a week!
One question that lost will not answer… Why does Hurly drive a Hummer? I thought only assholes drive those things. I suppose that big body of his would not be as comfortable in a Ferrari, but a Range Rover maybe? Possibly it was just for the scene where Locke’s wheel chair ramp gets blocked in, because someone driving a Hummer would totally do that.
I don’t have a reason for you as to WHY he drives a Hummer, but Hurley was at one point driving a yellow Hummer in the regular timeline WAAAAAAY back in S01′s Ep18 enititled “Numbers.”
He drives it up to his new mansion with his mom blindfolded in the car. Then she breaks her ankle getting out and the house catches on fire, and then Hugo’s arrested. Good times…
You missed a really good opportunity there Gabe.
“So he gets a temp job as a substitute teacher, and goes into the faculty lounge for some tea and meets one of the other teachers”
OTHER teacher! Ha!